Recent Topics
"New" Beater
by SilverGt. 09/22/18 07:22 PM
Eschewing computer controls
by buck91. 09/22/18 06:41 PM
Leak/drip left front 13 Ram 4x4?
by irv. 09/22/18 06:22 PM
5w20 oil choices
by 53' Stude. 09/22/18 06:05 PM
site security
by RF Overlord. 09/22/18 06:02 PM
Richmond Raceway
by Warstud. 09/22/18 06:01 PM
Redline D6 ATF substituting for Toyota WS
by Patrick0525. 09/22/18 05:29 PM
XG3614 Cut Open 13,400kms (8,375mi)
by mcwilly. 09/22/18 05:25 PM
Torn Purolators: they DO TEAR!
by 53' Stude. 09/22/18 05:07 PM
transmission fluid and filter exchange
by Dennisistheman. 09/22/18 04:53 PM
Why people should change oil+filter!
by 53' Stude. 09/22/18 04:50 PM
Household lubricants (general purpose) differences
by 92saturnsl2. 09/22/18 04:35 PM
debris in my engine oil--what to do?
by Jasper8146. 09/22/18 03:50 PM
Is this seal bad?
by parshisa. 09/22/18 03:44 PM
Leather Masters Protection Cream review....
by gregk24. 09/22/18 03:13 PM
Aisin WS
by RodneyM. 09/22/18 03:11 PM
Husqvarna trimmer questions
by BrianF. 09/22/18 02:51 PM
Uber Self-Driv Death: Disabled Pedest Avoidance!!!!
by oil_film_movies. 09/22/18 02:29 PM
Question on Backlight setting on LED tv's
by LoneRanger. 09/22/18 02:16 PM
Newest Members
Sarrge, Big_R, gordond, mrgreggn, JRMFt11
66040 Registered Users
Who's Online Now
80 registered members (Al, 53' Stude, 55hambone, 87sammy, 928, 9 invisible), 1,603 guests, and 42 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums67
Topics290,845
Posts4,851,358
Members66,040
Most Online3,590
Jan 24th, 2017
Donate to BITOG
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Page 1 of 2 1 2
Need Used Mower for Multiple Users #4689663
03/09/18 03:21 PM
03/09/18 03:21 PM
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 2,275
VA
Gebo Offline OP
Gebo  Offline OP
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 2,275
VA
I am gonna have to replace the church riding mower. I know old Simplicity Landlord's and old JD's were super tough. Only about 1/2 acre to mow. Need to keep it under $1500 if possible. Only interested in older used metal (lol) mowers. Any ideas?


'98 LEX LS400 280K
'00 LEX GS300 195K
'02 4Runner 225K
'05 Lex LS430 85K
'06 Toyota Highlander 145K
'09 Lex IS350 85K
'07 Lex GX470 58K
Amsoil in all engines, transmissions and differentials

Re: Need Used Mower for Multiple Users [Re: Gebo] #4689686
03/09/18 03:45 PM
03/09/18 03:45 PM
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 53
Michigan
Buzzinhalfdozen Offline
Buzzinhalfdozen  Offline
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 53
Michigan
An old Ariens GT garden tractor hydrostatic with a 48" or 60" deck will run forever.


1999 Jeep Cherokee sport 4.0L
2015 Jeep Cherokee 3.2L
Re: Need Used Mower for Multiple Users [Re: Gebo] #4689709
03/09/18 04:12 PM
03/09/18 04:12 PM
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 3,157
n.c.
gman2304 Offline
gman2304  Offline
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 3,157
n.c.
For 1/2 acre and just for mowing you donít need a GT. John Deere LX188 used off CL. Iíve had mine for 20 years and have spent $100 on repairs in all those years.

Re: Need Used Mower for Multiple Users [Re: Gebo] #4689710
03/09/18 04:13 PM
03/09/18 04:13 PM
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 870
Oklahoma
CELICA_XX Offline
CELICA_XX  Offline
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 870
Oklahoma
You can buy a new Craftsman mower for less than $1500, right?

1/2 acre doesn't have to be super heavy duty


15 Toyota Prius - M1 EP 0w20
02 Toyota ECHO - Valv MaxLife Full Syn 5w30
97 Lexus LX450 - M1 0w40
93 Lexus LS400 - Valv MaxLife Full Syn 5w30
Re: Need Used Mower for Multiple Users [Re: Gebo] #4689715
03/09/18 04:19 PM
03/09/18 04:19 PM
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 566
Madison, Wisconsin
TWG1572 Offline
TWG1572  Offline
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 566
Madison, Wisconsin
My vote is to drop the $100 and fix your old mower. But, if not, what is the terrain like? Hilly terrain is hard on the hydros of entry level lawn tractors, so if it is hilly you'd probably be better off sticking with a garden tractor.

Re: Need Used Mower for Multiple Users [Re: Gebo] #4689730
03/09/18 04:45 PM
03/09/18 04:45 PM
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 2,275
VA
Gebo Offline OP
Gebo  Offline OP
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 2,275
VA
With John Deere, how do I know what is the "real" JD? I don't want one like Lowe's sells. I want one with the super tough deck. X300, LT 180, D 140????


'98 LEX LS400 280K
'00 LEX GS300 195K
'02 4Runner 225K
'05 Lex LS430 85K
'06 Toyota Highlander 145K
'09 Lex IS350 85K
'07 Lex GX470 58K
Amsoil in all engines, transmissions and differentials

Re: Need Used Mower for Multiple Users [Re: Gebo] #4689736
03/09/18 04:53 PM
03/09/18 04:53 PM
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 3,270
Ohio
Tdbo Online content
Tdbo  Online Content
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 3,270
Ohio
Originally Posted By: Gebo
With John Deere, how do I know what is the "real" JD? I don't want one like Lowe's sells. I want one with the super tough deck. X300, LT 180, D 140????



Of the three you listed, the "D" series is the "Big Box" store mower.
Regarding newer Deeres, quality starts with the "X" series. The 300 is the bottom of the line. They are a decent lawn tractor for mowing on relatively flat ground. I can speak from experience, I own an X300.
The LT is an older model. If you can find one in decent shape, it should make a good mower.


2012 Honda Accord LX-P 93K
2008 Ford Mustang Pony Package Convertible 17K
2006 Honda Odyssey EX-L 76K
2003 Ford Ranger 3.0 Supercab 110K
Re: Need Used Mower for Multiple Users [Re: Gebo] #4689742
03/09/18 05:03 PM
03/09/18 05:03 PM
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 3,157
n.c.
gman2304 Offline
gman2304  Offline
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 3,157
n.c.
I just saw you had another thread on the LX 178. You could rehab the deck on the LX 178 and buy a new hood cheaper than buying a new big box store mower, and have a much better, albeit older mower. The LX series with the Kawasaki liquid cooled engines and TuffTorq foot control hydrostatic transaxle is one of the best LT mowers ever built. The hoods are very brittle on these models ( my hood is held on with a bungee cord) and and are expensive to replace but if all else is good with it, I would try to repair the LX 178.

Last edited by gman2304; 03/09/18 05:07 PM.
Re: Need Used Mower for Multiple Users [Re: Tdbo] #4689744
03/09/18 05:05 PM
03/09/18 05:05 PM
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 2,275
VA
Gebo Offline OP
Gebo  Offline OP
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 2,275
VA
Originally Posted By: Tdbo
Originally Posted By: Gebo
With John Deere, how do I know what is the "real" JD? I don't want one like Lowe's sells. I want one with the super tough deck. X300, LT 180, D 140????



Of the three you listed, the "D" series is the "Big Box" store mower.
Regarding newer Deeres, quality starts with the "X" series. The 300 is the bottom of the line. They are a decent lawn tractor for mowing on relatively flat ground. I can speak from experience, I own an X300.
The LT is an older model. If you can find one in decent shape, it should make a good mower.


Thank you!


'98 LEX LS400 280K
'00 LEX GS300 195K
'02 4Runner 225K
'05 Lex LS430 85K
'06 Toyota Highlander 145K
'09 Lex IS350 85K
'07 Lex GX470 58K
Amsoil in all engines, transmissions and differentials

Re: Need Used Mower for Multiple Users [Re: gman2304] #4689749
03/09/18 05:09 PM
03/09/18 05:09 PM
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 2,275
VA
Gebo Offline OP
Gebo  Offline OP
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 2,275
VA
Originally Posted By: gman2304
I just saw you had another thread on the LX 178. You could rehab the deck on the LX 178 and buy a new hood cheaper than buying a new big box store mower, and have a much better, albeit older mower. The LX series with the Kawasaki engines and TuffTorq foot control hydrostatic transaxle is one of the best LT mowers ever built. The hoods are very brittle on these models and and are expensive to replace but if all else is good with it, I would try to repair the LX 178.


I would normally totally agree with you. But, I have additional info that makes buying another older mower a better option. Iíll never buy a new mower. 15-25 years old is my search area.


'98 LEX LS400 280K
'00 LEX GS300 195K
'02 4Runner 225K
'05 Lex LS430 85K
'06 Toyota Highlander 145K
'09 Lex IS350 85K
'07 Lex GX470 58K
Amsoil in all engines, transmissions and differentials

Re: Need Used Mower for Multiple Users [Re: Gebo] #4689763
03/09/18 05:22 PM
03/09/18 05:22 PM
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 3,270
Ohio
Tdbo Online content
Tdbo  Online Content
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 3,270
Ohio
Originally Posted By: Gebo
Originally Posted By: Tdbo
Originally Posted By: Gebo
With John Deere, how do I know what is the "real" JD? I don't want one like Lowe's sells. I want one with the super tough deck. X300, LT 180, D 140????



Of the three you listed, the "D" series is the "Big Box" store mower.
Regarding newer Deeres, quality starts with the "X" series. The 300 is the bottom of the line. They are a decent lawn tractor for mowing on relatively flat ground. I can speak from experience, I own an X300.
The LT is an older model. If you can find one in decent shape, it should make a good mower.


Thank you!



Should also add that the LA series along with those mowers branded "Sabre" by John Deere were also "Big Box" mowers. However, the Sabre was comparable to their STX series, which were sold through dealers only. A nice Sabre (also marketed as a Scotts) or STX would make a decent mower if you ran across a decent one. Would advise staying away from the LA series, however.


2012 Honda Accord LX-P 93K
2008 Ford Mustang Pony Package Convertible 17K
2006 Honda Odyssey EX-L 76K
2003 Ford Ranger 3.0 Supercab 110K
Re: Need Used Mower for Multiple Users [Re: Gebo] #4689886
03/09/18 07:31 PM
03/09/18 07:31 PM
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 12,901
NE,Ohio
Rand Offline
Rand  Offline
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 12,901
NE,Ohio
are you planning on repairing yourself?

A JD316 was 3000$ in 1978

Its the stripped version of the 318 no power steering to fail

Its still the golden standard of garden tractor IMO.. but finding good examples in mint condition is difficult.

If replacing a hydro hose, and some fuel line etc is within your skills/time they are still good.

I picked up a average condition 316 last year for 1100$ but had to put 250$ into the deck, and it still needs fuel line and a couple other things pretty soon.. mows great.

The 200 series can be found under 1000 but many are belt and variator drive with "clutch" and are not nearly as good for random people to mow with--compared to the "automatic" hydrostatic transmission the 300 series gets.

I bought my 212 for 300$ put about 300$ in it and its reliable.. burns oil about 2oz/hr which is common on those engines.


2019 Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk 2.0T
Re: Need Used Mower for Multiple Users [Re: CELICA_XX] #4689913
03/09/18 07:49 PM
03/09/18 07:49 PM
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 12,543
NH
supton Offline
supton  Offline
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 12,543
NH
Originally Posted By: CELICA_XX
You can buy a new Craftsman mower for less than $1500, right?

1/2 acre doesn't have to be super heavy duty


I'm thinking a push mower would be fine for a half acre, if it's flat. Even less to break, and even less to buy. My yard has a tilt to it, and even though I've had two riding tractors given to me, I've gone back to a push mower each time--cuts better, and isn't that much slower.

To each their own. Just had to point that out, though. Am guessing the church gets more volunteers if it's a riding mower.


2011 Toyota Camry, base, 2.5L/6MT, 163k, hers
2010 Toyota Tundra DC, 4.6L/6AT, 144k, ours
1999 Toyota Camry LE, 2.2L/4AT, 190k, his
Re: Need Used Mower for Multiple Users [Re: Gebo] #4689927
03/09/18 08:05 PM
03/09/18 08:05 PM
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 2,275
VA
Gebo Offline OP
Gebo  Offline OP
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 2,275
VA
Yep, Iíd probably get NO volunteers with a push mower. Itís about 1/2 acre total grass but thereís a pretty large parking lot in the middle. Probably a 2 acre lot. Whole lots of walking.


'98 LEX LS400 280K
'00 LEX GS300 195K
'02 4Runner 225K
'05 Lex LS430 85K
'06 Toyota Highlander 145K
'09 Lex IS350 85K
'07 Lex GX470 58K
Amsoil in all engines, transmissions and differentials

Re: Need Used Mower for Multiple Users [Re: Gebo] #4689929
03/09/18 08:06 PM
03/09/18 08:06 PM
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 2,275
VA
Gebo Offline OP
Gebo  Offline OP
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 2,275
VA
Iíd really like to find a mid 90s Honda rider.

Last edited by Gebo; 03/09/18 08:06 PM.

'98 LEX LS400 280K
'00 LEX GS300 195K
'02 4Runner 225K
'05 Lex LS430 85K
'06 Toyota Highlander 145K
'09 Lex IS350 85K
'07 Lex GX470 58K
Amsoil in all engines, transmissions and differentials

Page 1 of 2 1 2

BOB IS THE OIL GUY® Powered by UBB.threads™