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Cordless Impact #4689386
03/09/18 09:16 AM
03/09/18 09:16 AM
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Trav Offline OP
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Last month I found myself far away from any air source and could have used a cordless impact, I had a IR W7150 for a short time and hated it, too big and heavy, etc so time to go shopping.
The first one that caught my eye was the Makita XWT08XVZ (Milwaukee isn't even on the list) and to my surprise it is made in Japan not China, my knee jerk reaction was this is the one but after thinking about it for a min reality hit, this thing weighs in at almost 8lb and almost a foot long with socket.

These factors alone make this tools almost useless under the hood and many places under the car, using it for any length of time would be an arm breaker. On paper its a great machine for a cordless but in real use a nightmare. I had to find something better.


https://www.amazon.com/Makita-XWT08XVZ-Lithium-Ion-Brushless-Cordless/dp/B01JLBII84

Then I came across this one, I found it for $175 and the best price on the big one was $205 so only $30 difference makes this one look like a loser right off the hop and its made in China to boot.


Doing some research the advertised 210ftlb torque rating is very low, it has been tested and shown over 300ftlb removing bolts.
It is small, very small, in fact it is almost the same size with socket as the 1/4" model and its light even with battery.
With the same 5A battery the bigger one uses its run time is incredible.

I was looking at my old 1/4" that is now over 10 years old and been worked hard and still running fine and its made in China so that is not a real issue.
The 1/4 and the 1/2 together. Notice the clear plastic protector on the 1/2



A nice feature is the pin socket holder, usually I hate them, you need to push the pin with something to get the socket off, Makita tapered this one so it acts like a ball socket, it does hold the socket firmly because it goes in the hole but requires no theatrics to remove the socket,very nice but you must use impact sockets as they have the retaining hole. The pin is serviceable and replaceable.


It has 3 speeds and variable trigger, there is also a light off feature by holding the button down down a few seconds. It also has a battery indicator which also works when older non star batteries are used.


The 1/4" and 1/2" weight. 940 and 1134 grams.



Some pics of the unit.





Makita claims more power with same weight as the 3A for their new 5A smart batteries AKA star batteries. The newest have a built in charge indicator. They are close but the physical size is same. The 4 3A batteries I have are all 10yrs and more old and never failed.
I had some Milwaukee tools but battery failure and poor CS for warranty put an end to that right quick. Never again.
Some comparison pics of the batteries, the old non star batteries work fine in both old and new tools and vice versa. The Rapid charger charges the 5A in 45 min.







I have had chance to use this gun and its fantastic, it fits in tight places, in reverse it can run on a low power setting to "rattle" fasteners loose where most air impact except the IR231 and clones are balls to the wall in reverse.
It has taken brake caliper brackets, control arm bolts, strut nuts, intake bolts and exhaust hanger bolts out with no problem and yes lug nuts are a breeze.

Build quality is excellent, it is solid as a rock. On paper the bigger unit beats it like a red headed stepchild but in the real world it cant hold a candle to this one when it comes to using it all over the car.
This will be my go to gun for removing interior bolts where I don't want to drag a dirty air hose through someones interior.
If I had to own just one gun and no compressor this would be it. For bigger stuff you would still need a breaker bar but most of the stuff will come loose with this.


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Re: Cordless Impact [Re: Trav] #4689395
03/09/18 09:29 AM
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Nice review, Thank You. I am looking to pickup a cordless impact and this one is looking good.


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Re: Cordless Impact [Re: Trav] #4689400
03/09/18 09:34 AM
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Excellent review Trav. Sounds like a wise investment.


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Re: Cordless Impact [Re: Trav] #4689413
03/09/18 09:50 AM
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It's on my list.


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Re: Cordless Impact [Re: Trav] #4689464
03/09/18 11:00 AM
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I picked this up for $59 after sale coupons at Harbor Freight. While probably not durable enough for a professional, it works great for the weekend DYI.


https://www.harborfreight.com/20v-hypermax-lithium-12-in-drilldriver-kit-63531.html


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Re: Cordless Impact [Re: Trav] #4689485
03/09/18 11:19 AM
03/09/18 11:19 AM
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ROCHESTER, NY
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"AvE Tool Reviews" found the Hazard Fraught EarthQuake XT 1200 ft lb battery powered impact gun to be quite skookum.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkPzjV-ZaTU


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Re: Cordless Impact [Re: azjake] #4689499
03/09/18 11:38 AM
03/09/18 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted By: azjake
I picked this up for $59 after sale coupons at Harbor Freight. While probably not durable enough for a professional, it works great for the weekend DYI.


https://www.harborfreight.com/20v-hypermax-lithium-12-in-drilldriver-kit-63531.html

That is a drill, not an impact wrench.

I have a Craftsman 19.2V Impact that is supposed to have 300 ft/lbs of torque. It works great and I hardly use my air impact anymore. Much handier and portable.

Last edited by tmorris1; 03/09/18 11:39 AM.
Re: Cordless Impact [Re: Trav] #4689505
03/09/18 11:45 AM
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5600 feet elevation, Arizona
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Trav, why wasnít Milwaukee on your list? Iíve recently picked up both 1/2Ē and 3/8Ē drive Milwaukee impacts because I donít have access to high volume compressed air anymore. So far, theyíre working great. The 3/8Ē came with charger and 3 5ah batteries. I bought the 1/2Ē as a bare tool. The prices were cost competitive. So far so good. Did you have bad experience with Milwaukee tools? Just curious...


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Re: Cordless Impact [Re: double vanos] #4689538
03/09/18 12:22 PM
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Trav Offline OP
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Wait till you need CS for one of their POS batteries. I bought a pipe cutter and 2 batteries at HD I have the original receipt. One of the 12v batteries died after 2 charging cycles.
My biggest mistake was not returning the whole business and getting another instead the Milwaukee rep sent the battery in for replacement.

I have the fedex slip for it and at first they said the warranty was up going by the battery date even though they had a copy of the sales receipt. Then they accused me of trying to pull a fast one sending an older battery in and finally they said they never got it.

Milwaukee is not the company they were when they were independent or when they were owned by Atlas Copco, this Chinese company that bought them sucks.


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Re: Cordless Impact [Re: Trav] #4689544
03/09/18 12:28 PM
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Well, that just sux! Weíll see how mine hold up and if they do the same as yours, Iíll flame the [email protected] here ( though Iím sure it wouldnít do much good). Mine are the 18v, so with a little luck I might be ok.


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Re: Cordless Impact [Re: Trav] #4689546
03/09/18 12:30 PM
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I can relate to the weight factor.

I love my dewalt cordless but it is very heavy. If I was buying again I would definitely consider weight more.

the number 2 setting (out of 3) takes pretty much any fasteners off.

I would probably shop for one with 50%-66% the power and half the weight(or less)

New models coming out are getting better too.

I have the DCF899 its 5.8lb + the hefty 5ah battery.

the DCF894 is probably better suited to my use


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Re: Cordless Impact [Re: double vanos] #4689550
03/09/18 12:36 PM
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Trav Offline OP
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Yes it does suck, I buy a lot of tools and need them to work not die on the job after a few weeks. they treated me like I was trying to steal something from them.
The 18V battery is supposedly better but I will never know.
I had a driver and the battery died but the rep at that time replaced it with no question, good CS I figured so I bought the cutter.

The Makita has a 3yr warranty on the battery, charger and tool, the HF 90 day warranty isn't cutting it.


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Re: Cordless Impact [Re: Char Baby] #4689552
03/09/18 12:37 PM
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Trav Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: Char Baby
"AvE Tool Reviews" found the Hazard Fraught EarthQuake XT 1200 ft lb battery powered impact gun to be quite skookum.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkPzjV-ZaTU


It may be great but the 90 day warranty isn't. No thanks.


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Re: Cordless Impact [Re: Trav] #4689578
03/09/18 01:09 PM
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Trav
Great review! Iíve been considering an 1/2Ē electric impact for some of my needs. Iíve looked at corded and cordless models. The Milwaukee M18 is on my list as I already have a M18 drill. My other choice choice would be the corded Kobalt model. Your review gives me another brand to look at.


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Re: Cordless Impact [Re: Trav] #4689613
03/09/18 02:12 PM
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Trav Offline OP
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I forgot to mention a couple of things, the model and auto stop feature, it senses when the fastener is loosened from the threads and stops. It works well and prevents fastener from flying all over the place if you are not off the trigger quick enough.

Makita XWT11Z

https://www.amazon.com/Makita-XWT11Z-Lit...H53HYBNSQRVM5FT


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