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94 Land Cruiser--Energy Conserving II (or not....) #4688918
03/08/18 06:03 PM
03/08/18 06:03 PM
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Englewood, CO
funkymonkey1111 Offline OP
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94 Land Cruiser with 239K miles. Unknown lineage and care from 0-217K miles. Has a rebuilt head on it. Consumes some oil. I've used regular Castrol 10w30.

The manual calls for 10w30 "Energy Conserving II" oil. I don't think that's around any more. That being said, is energy conserving something i should use? (for instance, in another request for an 05 Subaru turbo, non-energy conserving oil was suggested).

Rotella T5 can be had in 10w30 in non energy conserving. Any good for this use? Or, thinking of moving to Castrol Edge 10w30, for no other reason than I seem to have good luck with Castrol. But, I'm open to any suggestions.

Also, I've read on here to use Toyota filters. I have no problem with this--but would they be better than Fram Ultra Guard?

This rig is used on some decent trails in Colorado, but is stock.

Oil change intervals have not really been established under my ownership.

Also--high mileage oil? Again, the head is new

Re: 94 Land Cruiser--Energy Conserving II (or not....) [Re: funkymonkey1111] #4688922
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No need to worry, any ol’ 5w30 or 10w30 should work fine.


2015 Hyundai Sonata 2.4L 84k Mobil 1 AFE 0w30 & OEM
2000 Toyota Camry 2.2L 230k Valvoline 5w30 & Fram Ultra
1996 Jeep Cherokee 4.0L 147k Mobil 1 HM 10w40 & Fram Ultra
Re: 94 Land Cruiser--Energy Conserving II (or not....) [Re: funkymonkey1111] #4688950
03/08/18 06:32 PM
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NEUS
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That’ll run great on just about any modern name-brand 30 or 40-weight.

I’d probably use Mobil 1 High Mileage 10w-40 to see if it’ll help with the burning a bit.


'14 Grand Cherokee EcoDiesel
Rotella T6 5w-40 & OEM filter
Re: 94 Land Cruiser--Energy Conserving II (or not....) [Re: funkymonkey1111] #4688953
03/08/18 06:34 PM
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OH
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The whole concept of an energy conserving oil in the context of a Toyota Land Crusher has to bring peals of laughter.
I'd use any good 10W-30 you can pick up cheaply.
Delo dual rated HDEO 10W-30 is now on clearance at Wally's for around seven bucks a gallon jug and this would be a good pick for this machine.


17 Forester 18K VME 0W-20
12 Accord LX 92K PP 5W-20
09 Forester 95K M1HM 10W-30
01 Focus ZX3 118K PP 5W-20
96 Accord LX 104K T5 10W-30
95 318i
Re: 94 Land Cruiser--Energy Conserving II (or not....) [Re: funkymonkey1111] #4688955
03/08/18 06:40 PM
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Central Valley, CA
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My LX450 used less oil once I switched to a 40wt. Gas mileage loss was negligible.

Re: 94 Land Cruiser--Energy Conserving II (or not....) [Re: funkymonkey1111] #4688961
03/08/18 06:47 PM
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My 93 land cruiser loved mobil 1 10w30. I went 6K intervals back then. Today I would go 10k.

Surprised it uses oil, unless it was severely neglected. The 1fze (I think by memory) is a great engine.

Loved mine, wish I never sold it. I put in an Old Man Emu lift, and it had full factory lockers. Went anywhere. The Maroon Beast. Incredible engineering.

Re: 94 Land Cruiser--Energy Conserving II (or not....) [Re: funkymonkey1111] #4688976
03/08/18 07:04 PM
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Slovenia EU
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Ehhh....just anything will work out...10w40 or 5w40...


2011 Hyundai i30 1.4 CVVT Shell Helix Ultra 5w40
1997 Toyota Landcruiser KZJ95 3.0 TD Shell Rimula R6M 10w40
Re: 94 Land Cruiser--Energy Conserving II (or not....) [Re: funkymonkey1111] #4688991
03/08/18 07:24 PM
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Castrol GTX HM synblend 10w30, if you really want a Castrol product.

Re: 94 Land Cruiser--Energy Conserving II (or not....) [Re: funkymonkey1111] #4689154
03/08/18 09:56 PM
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Florida
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When was the last time the PCV valve was replaced with an OEM unit? That is the first thing that should be replaced if no oil leaks are visible and oil consumption has increased.


2010 Lancer Ralliart Sportback
Re: 94 Land Cruiser--Energy Conserving II (or not....) [Re: funkymonkey1111] #4689163
03/08/18 10:12 PM
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WI.
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ya, 5/40-15/40


16 Civic Coupe Touring 33k
640:1 TCW-3 E091
Edge 0/40 XG7317
Firehawk Indy 500

06 4Runner SR5 141k
640:1 TCW-3
PP 5/30 XG3614
Falken Wildpeak AT3W
Re: 94 Land Cruiser--Energy Conserving II (or not....) [Re: funkymonkey1111] #4689220
03/08/18 11:12 PM
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Texas, Mentone for work, Galve...
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Just about any Delo will be appropriate. Ilsac oils are a joke in this beast.


2018 Trd Pro 4Runner M1 0w40
2018 Tacoma off-road Castrol 5w30 Magnatec
Re: 94 Land Cruiser--Energy Conserving II (or not....) [Re: funkymonkey1111] #4689290
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I always used Mobil 1 10w30 in my '95 FZJ80. It always ran fine, and didn't use any oil.

Re: 94 Land Cruiser--Energy Conserving II (or not....) [Re: funkymonkey1111] #4689501
03/09/18 11:40 AM
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239K on the bottom end, I'd be all over a xW-40. HDEO is prolly the best way to go. Since trails are mostly s spring/summer/fall thing, I'd be onto 15W-40 Delo, Delvac, etc.

Throw a full can of BG109 in about 100 miles before the change. Should help slow the oil consumption some smile

The oil is going by the rings. They may be stuck some. A piston soak would be in order before any hard use.

I'd be more interested in "engine conserving oil", that any political sound bite stuff ...

Last edited by BrocLuno; 03/09/18 11:42 AM.

Formerly in marine engineering. In an earlier life I owned my own petroleum tank truck, and hauled for the majors and independent's.
Re: 94 Land Cruiser--Energy Conserving II (or not....) [Re: funkymonkey1111] #4689519
03/09/18 12:06 PM
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I think these engines pretty much take anything. I believe the trucks in Australia spec 20w-50

I've been running M1 0w-40 for the past 12 years or so


15 Toyota Prius - M1 EP 0w20
02 Toyota ECHO - Valv MaxLife Full Syn 5w30
97 Lexus LX450 - M1 0w40
93 Lexus LS400 - Valv MaxLife Full Syn 5w30
Re: 94 Land Cruiser--Energy Conserving II (or not....) [Re: funkymonkey1111] #4689559
03/09/18 12:51 PM
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I would think in CO a 5Wxx would be better in winter, if nothing else, easier cranking.

New head, that won't need "high" mileage oil. Might want to change once or twice, in case of any residual coolant that got into the oil, but the head shouldn't have an impact on anything.


2011 Toyota Camry, base, 2.5L/6MT, 163k, hers
2010 Toyota Tundra DC, 4.6L/6AT, 144k, ours
1999 Toyota Camry LE, 2.2L/4AT, 190k, his

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