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#4688918 - 03/08/18 05:03 PM 94 Land Cruiser--Energy Conserving II (or not....)
funkymonkey1111 Offline


Registered: 02/07/18
Posts: 97
Loc: Englewood, CO
94 Land Cruiser with 239K miles. Unknown lineage and care from 0-217K miles. Has a rebuilt head on it. Consumes some oil. I've used regular Castrol 10w30.

The manual calls for 10w30 "Energy Conserving II" oil. I don't think that's around any more. That being said, is energy conserving something i should use? (for instance, in another request for an 05 Subaru turbo, non-energy conserving oil was suggested).

Rotella T5 can be had in 10w30 in non energy conserving. Any good for this use? Or, thinking of moving to Castrol Edge 10w30, for no other reason than I seem to have good luck with Castrol. But, I'm open to any suggestions.

Also, I've read on here to use Toyota filters. I have no problem with this--but would they be better than Fram Ultra Guard?

This rig is used on some decent trails in Colorado, but is stock.

Oil change intervals have not really been established under my ownership.

Also--high mileage oil? Again, the head is new

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#4688922 - 03/08/18 05:05 PM Re: 94 Land Cruiser--Energy Conserving II (or not....) [Re: funkymonkey1111]
Nick1994 Offline


Registered: 02/19/13
Posts: 10097
Loc: Phoenix, AZ
No need to worry, any olí 5w30 or 10w30 should work fine.
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#4688950 - 03/08/18 05:32 PM Re: 94 Land Cruiser--Energy Conserving II (or not....) [Re: funkymonkey1111]
Bandito440 Offline


Registered: 02/13/12
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Thatíll run great on just about any modern name-brand 30 or 40-weight.

Iíd probably use Mobil 1 High Mileage 10w-40 to see if itíll help with the burning a bit.
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#4688953 - 03/08/18 05:34 PM Re: 94 Land Cruiser--Energy Conserving II (or not....) [Re: funkymonkey1111]
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Registered: 09/25/09
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The whole concept of an energy conserving oil in the context of a Toyota Land Crusher has to bring peals of laughter.
I'd use any good 10W-30 you can pick up cheaply.
Delo dual rated HDEO 10W-30 is now on clearance at Wally's for around seven bucks a gallon jug and this would be a good pick for this machine.
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#4688955 - 03/08/18 05:40 PM Re: 94 Land Cruiser--Energy Conserving II (or not....) [Re: funkymonkey1111]
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Registered: 08/08/06
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Loc: Gold Country, CA
My LX450 used less oil once I switched to a 40wt. Gas mileage loss was negligible.

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#4688961 - 03/08/18 05:47 PM Re: 94 Land Cruiser--Energy Conserving II (or not....) [Re: funkymonkey1111]
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Registered: 11/18/17
Posts: 215
Loc: New Jersey
My 93 land cruiser loved mobil 1 10w30. I went 6K intervals back then. Today I would go 10k.

Surprised it uses oil, unless it was severely neglected. The 1fze (I think by memory) is a great engine.

Loved mine, wish I never sold it. I put in an Old Man Emu lift, and it had full factory lockers. Went anywhere. The Maroon Beast. Incredible engineering.

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#4688976 - 03/08/18 06:04 PM Re: 94 Land Cruiser--Energy Conserving II (or not....) [Re: funkymonkey1111]
Kamele0N Offline


Registered: 02/09/15
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Loc: Slovenia
Ehhh....just anything will work out...10w40 or 5w40...
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#4688991 - 03/08/18 06:24 PM Re: 94 Land Cruiser--Energy Conserving II (or not....) [Re: funkymonkey1111]
madeej11 Offline


Registered: 06/22/15
Posts: 109
Loc: montreal ,canada
Castrol GTX HM synblend 10w30, if you really want a Castrol product.

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#4689154 - 03/08/18 08:56 PM Re: 94 Land Cruiser--Energy Conserving II (or not....) [Re: funkymonkey1111]
artificialist Offline


Registered: 09/23/07
Posts: 8598
Loc: Florida
When was the last time the PCV valve was replaced with an OEM unit? That is the first thing that should be replaced if no oil leaks are visible and oil consumption has increased.
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#4689163 - 03/08/18 09:12 PM Re: 94 Land Cruiser--Energy Conserving II (or not....) [Re: funkymonkey1111]
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Registered: 04/24/07
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ya, 5/40-15/40
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#4689220 - 03/08/18 10:12 PM Re: 94 Land Cruiser--Energy Conserving II (or not....) [Re: funkymonkey1111]
Bryanccfshr Offline


Registered: 10/09/04
Posts: 5716
Loc: Durango, Co
Just about any Delo will be appropriate. Ilsac oils are a joke in this beast.
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#4689290 - 03/09/18 01:23 AM Re: 94 Land Cruiser--Energy Conserving II (or not....) [Re: funkymonkey1111]
02SE Offline


Registered: 12/30/05
Posts: 2725
Loc: The Canyons
I always used Mobil 1 10w30 in my '95 FZJ80. It always ran fine, and didn't use any oil.

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#4689501 - 03/09/18 10:40 AM Re: 94 Land Cruiser--Energy Conserving II (or not....) [Re: funkymonkey1111]
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Registered: 09/06/15
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Loc: Kalifornia Kollective
239K on the bottom end, I'd be all over a xW-40. HDEO is prolly the best way to go. Since trails are mostly s spring/summer/fall thing, I'd be onto 15W-40 Delo, Delvac, etc.

Throw a full can of BG109 in about 100 miles before the change. Should help slow the oil consumption some smile

The oil is going by the rings. They may be stuck some. A piston soak would be in order before any hard use.

I'd be more interested in "engine conserving oil", that any political sound bite stuff ...


Edited by BrocLuno (03/09/18 10:42 AM)
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#4689519 - 03/09/18 11:06 AM Re: 94 Land Cruiser--Energy Conserving II (or not....) [Re: funkymonkey1111]
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Registered: 11/28/08
Posts: 861
Loc: Oklahoma
I think these engines pretty much take anything. I believe the trucks in Australia spec 20w-50

I've been running M1 0w-40 for the past 12 years or so
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#4689559 - 03/09/18 11:51 AM Re: 94 Land Cruiser--Energy Conserving II (or not....) [Re: funkymonkey1111]
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Registered: 11/09/08
Posts: 11923
Loc: NH
I would think in CO a 5Wxx would be better in winter, if nothing else, easier cranking.

New head, that won't need "high" mileage oil. Might want to change once or twice, in case of any residual coolant that got into the oil, but the head shouldn't have an impact on anything.
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