Recent Topics
1991 Toyota Previa New JDM engine Redline
by Kurtatron
06/21/18 06:26 PM
8 yr old channeling John Bonham
by Toy4x4
06/21/18 06:02 PM
Traveller nlgi 2
by Spitter
06/21/18 05:33 PM
Upgrading the Kohler 7000 series air cleaner
by Patrick0525
06/21/18 05:08 PM
Any nano reefers here?
by RichardS
06/21/18 05:04 PM
ARC remanufactured Power Steering Pump
by Pajero
06/21/18 04:58 PM
John Deere "Easy Change" System gimmick
by SnowmanCO
06/21/18 04:55 PM
Oz Planstic Bag Bans - not so green.
by Shannow
06/21/18 04:31 PM
help me choose...
by chaindrive
06/21/18 04:07 PM
France F1 Grand Prix
by DeepFriar
06/21/18 03:16 PM
Valvoline High Mileage with maxlife tech semi-syn
by bradtech
06/21/18 03:16 PM
Best additive in oil to clean sludge?
by ffgb
06/21/18 02:19 PM
Who is a Dirt Track regular?
by thooks
06/21/18 01:39 PM
eco plug oil plug video is restricted
by edwardh1
06/21/18 01:27 PM
Political comments
by ridgerunner
06/21/18 01:23 PM
My Ford orange turned pink
by BeerCan
06/21/18 12:45 PM
Any plants/garden experts?
by maverickfhs
06/21/18 12:43 PM
Internet Sales Tax O.K.ed by Supreme Court
by doitmyself
06/21/18 12:23 PM
Brake fluid for a '03 Volvo S60
by earthworm
06/21/18 11:22 AM
Oil Weight Change - Mid Production Cycle
by PolarisX
06/21/18 11:20 AM
Newest Members
wil892, Spddm0n, ronw1309, Suth31, yamahaboy125
65286 Registered Users
Who's Online
116 registered (5AcresAndAFool, andyd, 77GrandPrix, aquariuscsm, 97prizm, alphadog, 13 invisible), 1519 Guests and 37 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Stats
65286 Members
67 Forums
285727 Topics
4768578 Posts

Max Online: 3590 @ 01/24/17 08:07 PM
Donate to BITOG
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >
Topic Options
#4688345 - 03/08/18 06:22 AM BMW TwinPower 5W-30 vs GC 0W-40 LL01 '07 BMW 328i
12sleder Offline


Registered: 03/07/18
Posts: 5
Loc: Ontario
Hello,

My first post, great site!

Have 2007 BMW 328i coupe with 55000 mile. Has always had oil from dealer, BMW TwinPower 5W-30 blue bottle.
Manual only lists 5W-30 LL01.

I cannot locate any oil that is suitable for my vehicle in the 5W-30 LL-01 grade other than at the dealer.

Would there be any negative effects to using GC 0W-40? I only drive the vehicle in the summer, but am a
bit concerned with switching the oil on an older vehicle like this and concerned the grade is much different
that what is specified for my vehicle.

Anyone have any thoughts?

Thx

Top
#4688376 - 03/08/18 06:58 AM Re: BMW TwinPower 5W-30 vs GC 0W-40 LL01 '07 BMW 328i [Re: 12sleder]
kschachn Online   content


Registered: 12/26/05
Posts: 9398
Loc: Upper Midwest
Originally Posted By: 12sleder
Hello,

My first post, great site!

Have 2007 BMW 328i coupe with 55000 mile. Has always had oil from dealer, BMW TwinPower 5W-30 blue bottle.
Manual only lists 5W-30 LL01.

I cannot locate any oil that is suitable for my vehicle in the 5W-30 LL-01 grade other than at the dealer.

Would there be any negative effects to using GC 0W-40? I only drive the vehicle in the summer, but am a
bit concerned with switching the oil on an older vehicle like this and concerned the grade is much different
that what is specified for my vehicle
.

Anyone have any thoughts?

No. The specification is the specification (Longlife-01), not the grade. Any oil that meets Longlife-01 has a minimum HTHS and as a result even if there are multiple grades that meet the specification they are going to be very similar in viscosities. Use any Longlife-01 oil you wish, my philosophy is that you use the cheapest one you can find that actually carries the spec. Just make sure it doesn't say "suitable for" or some other weasel wording. For me that is Castrol 0W-40 from Walmart which one of the finest motor oils on the market at a great Walmart price wink

And as to your second point, the two grades are not much different at all.
_________________________
1994 BMW 530i, 227K
1996 Honda Accord, 262K
1999 Toyota Sienna, 394K
2000 Toyota ECHO, 267K

Top
#4688383 - 03/08/18 07:09 AM Re: BMW TwinPower 5W-30 vs GC 0W-40 LL01 '07 BMW 328i [Re: 12sleder]
mightymousetech Offline


Registered: 04/03/17
Posts: 1444
Loc: Ontario, Canada
Use 0W40 in my 135, my Civic, and was used in my 06 330. It is great stuff.
_________________________
Mighty Mouse Tech
Acura Tech
2010 Civic Si Castrol 0W40, Redline MTL
2013 BMW 135i M Sport Edition Castrol 0W40, Redline MTL

Top
#4688387 - 03/08/18 07:14 AM Re: BMW TwinPower 5W-30 vs GC 0W-40 LL01 '07 BMW 328i [Re: 12sleder]
JHZR2 Offline



Registered: 12/14/02
Posts: 41781
Loc: New Jersey
LL-01 has multiple allowable grades. Use as you see fit. a 0w-40 is a great choice.

Top
#4688398 - 03/08/18 07:26 AM Re: BMW TwinPower 5W-30 vs GC 0W-40 LL01 '07 BMW 328i [Re: 12sleder]
12sleder Offline


Registered: 03/07/18
Posts: 5
Loc: Ontario
Thank you everyone for the quick replies. I'll start using GC 0W-40. Maybe it will quiet the lifters down on startup.

Top
#4688417 - 03/08/18 07:53 AM Re: BMW TwinPower 5W-30 vs GC 0W-40 LL01 '07 BMW 328i [Re: 12sleder]
mightymousetech Offline


Registered: 04/03/17
Posts: 1444
Loc: Ontario, Canada
Originally Posted By: 12sleder
Thank you everyone for the quick replies. I'll start using GC 0W-40. Maybe it will quiet the lifters down on startup.


Best thing for that is a good hard, highway drive. There may even be a service bulletin describing it. Caused by air in the lifters.
_________________________
Mighty Mouse Tech
Acura Tech
2010 Civic Si Castrol 0W40, Redline MTL
2013 BMW 135i M Sport Edition Castrol 0W40, Redline MTL

Top
#4688459 - 03/08/18 08:43 AM Re: BMW TwinPower 5W-30 vs GC 0W-40 LL01 '07 BMW 328i [Re: 12sleder]
Audios Offline


Registered: 11/19/11
Posts: 886
Loc: Lyndhurst NJ
The loud noise youre hearing thinking is the lifters is most likely the injectors clicking away, that will not change with oil type.


Edited by Audios (03/08/18 08:43 AM)
_________________________
2002 VW Golf TDI-Mobil 1 5/40 TDT
2005 BMW M3 BMW Twin Power 10/60
1998 BMW M3/4/5 Fuchs 5/40
2007 Mercedes GL320 CDI Fuchs 5/40 GT Pro XTL

Top
#4688468 - 03/08/18 08:56 AM Re: BMW TwinPower 5W-30 vs GC 0W-40 LL01 '07 BMW 328i [Re: Audios]
rooflessVW Offline


Registered: 12/24/11
Posts: 4047
Loc: North Carolina
Originally Posted By: Audios
The loud noise youre hearing thinking is the lifters is most likely the injectors clicking away, that will not change with oil type.

No, it's the [censored] design of the N52 cylinder head. Some do it, some don't.
_________________________
"Zed's dead baby, Zed's dead."

Top
#4688470 - 03/08/18 08:57 AM Re: BMW TwinPower 5W-30 vs GC 0W-40 LL01 '07 BMW 328i [Re: 12sleder]
SubieRubyRoo Offline


Registered: 05/14/12
Posts: 1125
Loc: Winchester, Indiana
My injectors are insanely noisy on cold starts when ambient is below 20*F but quiet down as they get warm. None of the fuel additives I have tried helped, but it doesn't affect mileage. I can still pull down 30mpg even when they are all clickety-clackety smile

Top
#4688521 - 03/08/18 09:37 AM Re: BMW TwinPower 5W-30 vs GC 0W-40 LL01 '07 BMW 328i [Re: 12sleder]
mightymousetech Offline


Registered: 04/03/17
Posts: 1444
Loc: Ontario, Canada
Caused by frequent short tripping.

Ticking Noise SBSI B 11 09 07 -N52 Engine HVA System

Quote:

SUBJECT
Intermittent Hydraulic Valve Adjuster (HVA): "Ticking" or "Rattling" Noises


MODEL
All E82, E83, E85, E86, E88, E60, E61, E70, E90, E91, E92, and E93 with the N51, N52 or N52K engines


SITUATION
An occasional ticking or rattling noise from the HVA elements may occur during cold engine starts or frequent short-distance driving.

CAUSE
In these situations, the HVA elements may not yet have been supplied with sufficient amounts of air-free oil. This condition will not cause any damage to the engine, and usually remedies itself with a longer driving distance or operating times at full operating temperature.

CORRECTION
In the event of a customer complaint, please perform the following the HVA bleeding procedure.

PROCEDURE
Important notes:

The bleed time may take anywhere from between two minutes and (in rare cases) to a maximum of 30 minutes. This procedure is to be performed on a level surface with the vehicle stationary, and in a properly ventilated area.

Procedure preconditions:

Engine oil level correct neither underfilled nor overfilled

Engine running at operating temperature

Bring the engine up to an operating speed (no load) of 2000-3000 rpm and maintain this condition for three minutes (bleeding procedure).

Let the engine idle for 15-30 seconds and reevaluate whether the noise is still present or not.

Engine quiet procedure is finished.

Engine noise is still present repeat the procedure; perform steps #1 and #2 up to a maximum of 5 times.

Only if the noise remains after performing the bleeding procedure 5 times: proceed by performing the procedure for a final time, also at an engine operating speed of 2000-3000 rpm, but for a total time duration of 15 minutes.



Edited by mightymousetech (03/08/18 09:39 AM)
_________________________
Mighty Mouse Tech
Acura Tech
2010 Civic Si Castrol 0W40, Redline MTL
2013 BMW 135i M Sport Edition Castrol 0W40, Redline MTL

Top
#4688580 - 03/08/18 10:31 AM Re: BMW TwinPower 5W-30 vs GC 0W-40 LL01 '07 BMW 328i [Re: 12sleder]
jeepman3071 Offline


Registered: 04/15/10
Posts: 4216
Loc: Storrs, Connecticut
Short tripping and keeping it at low RPM are contributing factors. The N52 likes to be revved. Drive it on the highway for a bit at higher RPM and it will quiet down. My GF's 2006 325xi has pretty quiet lifters at 130k miles, but it pretty much sees the red line daily.
_________________________
2000 Jeep Cherokee 4.0L (179k) - Pennzoil 10w30, Napa Gold 1516, Magnefine trans filter
2009 BMW 328i (32k) - Castrol Edge Euro 0w40, MANN HU816X

Top
#4688604 - 03/08/18 10:58 AM Re: BMW TwinPower 5W-30 vs GC 0W-40 LL01 '07 BMW 328i [Re: jeepman3071]
Kamele0N Offline


Registered: 02/09/15
Posts: 2041
Loc: Slovenia
Originally Posted By: jeepman3071
My GF's 2006 325xi has pretty quiet lifters at 130k miles, but it pretty much sees the red line daily.


In case of M/T explain to your GF that she can try to shift into higher gear(s) smile
_________________________
2011 Hyundai i30 1.4 CVVT Shell Helix Ultra 5w40
1997 Toyota Landcruiser KZJ95 3.0 TD various 10w40

Top
#4690229 - 03/10/18 06:45 AM Re: BMW TwinPower 5W-30 vs GC 0W-40 LL01 '07 BMW 328i [Re: 12sleder]
Bjornviken Offline


Registered: 12/06/17
Posts: 243
Loc: Finland
Shell Helix Ultra 5w-40 or Castrol Edge 0w-40. But Shell Helix Ultra is better for the crank case ventilation

Top
#4690239 - 03/10/18 06:56 AM Re: BMW TwinPower 5W-30 vs GC 0W-40 LL01 '07 BMW 328i [Re: Bjornviken]
kschachn Online   content


Registered: 12/26/05
Posts: 9398
Loc: Upper Midwest
Originally Posted By: Bjornviken
Shell Helix Ultra 5w-40 or Castrol Edge 0w-40. But Shell Helix Ultra is better for the crank case ventilation

I'm sure I'll get corrected if wrong but I don't think the Helix brand is sold in North America.
_________________________
1994 BMW 530i, 227K
1996 Honda Accord, 262K
1999 Toyota Sienna, 394K
2000 Toyota ECHO, 267K

Top
#4690331 - 03/10/18 09:05 AM Re: BMW TwinPower 5W-30 vs GC 0W-40 LL01 '07 BMW 328i [Re: kschachn]
mightymousetech Offline


Registered: 04/03/17
Posts: 1444
Loc: Ontario, Canada
Originally Posted By: kschachn
Originally Posted By: Bjornviken
Shell Helix Ultra 5w-40 or Castrol Edge 0w-40. But Shell Helix Ultra is better for the crank case ventilation

I'm sure I'll get corrected if wrong but I don't think the Helix brand is sold in North America.


Shell Helix is Pennzoil in NA, and they make the BMW OE oil.


Edited by mightymousetech (03/10/18 09:06 AM)
_________________________
Mighty Mouse Tech
Acura Tech
2010 Civic Si Castrol 0W40, Redline MTL
2013 BMW 135i M Sport Edition Castrol 0W40, Redline MTL

Top
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >