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Motul 8100 X-Max 0w40 #4683778
03/04/18 05:37 AM
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So previously I have asked peoples opinions on the best 0w40 oil to use. I have found this stuff and found a video of it on youtube testing the wear protection. Compared to Castrol 0w40 it did really well. Does anyone on here use Motul 8100 X-Max? What do you guys think to this stuff?

Cheers smile

https://www.opieoils.co.uk/p-68993-motul-8100-x-max-0w-40-fully-synthetic-car-engine-oil.aspx

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPJpHTMBC-0
Looks good on a cold test as well coming 3rd out of the bunch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cc3k8dn_yWY

Re: Motul 8100 X-Max 0w40 [Re: jtaylor2005] #4683780
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What are you thinking of putting it in?


Wife: 15' Audi A4 quattro 6 speed manual
Me: 13' VW GTI 3 door 6 speed manual
Re: Motul 8100 X-Max 0w40 [Re: jtaylor2005] #4683790
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I used to use it in the Smart and Colt is in my signature, cause Motul is pretty cheap here, and although I didn't perform any analysis and this is only about my feelings, the engine is much smoother and quieter on Petronas Syntium 7000 0W40 than on Motul X-Max.

I'm currently using Shell Helix Ultra 0W40 cause I was able to get some very very cheap, but the engine is rougher than with the Motul, I plan to go back to the Petronas next OC.

I'm not really a fan of Motul (except the 300V and gear 300 series maybe), I am lucky enough to be able to buy their products at decent prices, but I think most of their regular lineup offering is just overpriced for what it gives.

But yes, for years I used the X-Max 0W40, before the Petronas was available, and I actually liked this one better (especially the new formula with "cooltech technology"). IMO the X-Max is a superior oil to the X-Cess 5W40 which is grossly overpriced compared to the Total Quartz 9000 Energy 5W40 for example (but this is OT).


96 Barchetta, Motul 300V 5W40 | 98 Barchetta, Quartz 9000 energy 5W40
05 Forfour 95, SHU 0W40 (gf's car) | 10 Colt Ralliart, 300V 0W40
Re: Motul 8100 X-Max 0w40 [Re: jtaylor2005] #4683810
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Originally Posted By: jtaylor2005

If an oil does well in a test like this, that doesn't mean it'll work better in a real engine. Best to ignore this test and anything with a similar setup.


Originally Posted By: jtaylor2005
Looks good on a cold test as well coming 3rd out of the bunch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cc3k8dn_yWY

This one is slightly more meaningful, but not much. Oil doesn't just flow passively around the engine like that; it's actually [/i]pumped[/i]. That's why the W number (e.g. the 0W in 0W-40) is based on CCS and MRV tests rather than on something like this.


It's better to compare engine oils based on the specs they meet and the approvals they carry. X-Max 0W-40 carries an impressive list of approvals that cover a lot of very tough applications (e.g. Ford Focus RS, Porsche 911 Turbo, Mercedes-Benz SL65 AMG, etc.). Impossible to say whether it's "better" than any other oil with the same approvals, but it's obviously good stuff.

skyactiv's question is important: what car is this for?


2011 Mazda RX-8 R3
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Re: Motul 8100 X-Max 0w40 [Re: jtaylor2005] #4685206
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Hi there,

It's only for a 2l HDI engine from a Peugeot. I am really fond of the car and will be looking after it really well! So for the sake of any extra £6 every 6 months the best oil is perfectly viable for me laugh

Cheers,
Jack

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What's the manufacturer's spec for this engine?


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Re: Motul 8100 X-Max 0w40 [Re: jtaylor2005] #4685259
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FYI.

https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/motul....pdf?1492017081

100% Synthetic Ė Full SAPS

PERFORMANCES
STANDARDS ACEA A3 / B4
API SERVICES SN
APPROVALS BMW LL-01
MB-Approval 229.5
Porsche A40
VW 502 00 Ė 505 00


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2010 Civic Si Castrol 0W40, Redline MTL
2013 BMW 135i M Sport Edition Castrol 0W40, Redline MTL
Re: Motul 8100 X-Max 0w40 [Re: d00df00d] #4685261
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I am not sure. But I am sure whatever standard was around in 1999 has been significantly improved upon by now laugh

Re: Motul 8100 X-Max 0w40 [Re: jtaylor2005] #4685465
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If itís a 90 or 110hp HDI, I guess the factory recommended oil was Total Quartz 7000 10W40, or some 5W30 for very cold weather.

I wouldnít run Motul 0W40 in it, maybe more Total Quartz racing 10W50 laugh
More seriously, I would be cautious of fuel dilution, and run something with a narrower range smile Iíd say Total Quartz 9000 5W40 Energy (energy is important), which is a cheap 5W40 on the thick side.

But since you asked for the better 0W40, I guess the X-Max fits better than the Petronas for your car! Or go the 300V route.


96 Barchetta, Motul 300V 5W40 | 98 Barchetta, Quartz 9000 energy 5W40
05 Forfour 95, SHU 0W40 (gf's car) | 10 Colt Ralliart, 300V 0W40
Re: Motul 8100 X-Max 0w40 [Re: Popsy] #4686423
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Nice one thanks smile I have never really seen an issue with fuel dilution. The oil level has never really moved on this car. I put 4.6l in and it stays exactly on the full line until the next Service! Must be a decent engine inside I would think! laugh

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What oil are you currently using?

DO keep in mind it's a French engine laugh


96 Barchetta, Motul 300V 5W40 | 98 Barchetta, Quartz 9000 energy 5W40
05 Forfour 95, SHU 0W40 (gf's car) | 10 Colt Ralliart, 300V 0W40
Re: Motul 8100 X-Max 0w40 [Re: jtaylor2005] #4687084
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Currently running helix ultra 5w40.

This engine is known for its durability. There are taxis with these engines running 450k miles still on the road laugh

Re: Motul 8100 X-Max 0w40 [Re: jtaylor2005] #4687968
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Thatís good oil already! Total Quartz could possibly be quieter, although not by much.

Well, thatís still French stuff...although they do easily more than 250K with minimum care, so I guess with regular OC and everything, 400K+ might be doable laugh
The previous 1,8TD were doing 4/500K pretty easily. 1,9TD not so much, although it depends on year. And of course it depends on your use smile


96 Barchetta, Motul 300V 5W40 | 98 Barchetta, Quartz 9000 energy 5W40
05 Forfour 95, SHU 0W40 (gf's car) | 10 Colt Ralliart, 300V 0W40

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