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DEXOS synthetic vs Conventional oil #4686269
03/06/18 12:45 PM
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Squashtowner Offline OP
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My 2012 Sierra 5.3 is past warranty. I've used DEXOS oil for every oil change. I now have 113000 km on the truck. I changed the oil when the dash reminder told me to on the driver information center. This has tun 14000 km on a couple instances, and that alarms me.

My new job gives me access to free mobil conventional oil. I've been using purolator filters for the past 2 years, wix prior to that.

Can I switch over to non synthetic and make my oil change interval 5000 km? It'd simplify things a lot for me.

Re: DEXOS synthetic vs Conventional oil [Re: Squashtowner] #4686272
03/06/18 12:47 PM
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I would, free oil is very hard to say no to.


1975 Ford Capri II Ghia 3000 V6, - Shell Helix HX3 20W-50 w/ 20% Rimula R4X 15W-40 HDEO.

1988 Ford Escort Mk4 Xr3i Cabrio, - Shell Rimula R4X 15W-40, w/ 30% Helix 3 20W-50.

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Re: DEXOS synthetic vs Conventional oil [Re: Squashtowner] #4686279
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In my original post I said the truck went 14000 km between oil changes. It was still showing 24% oil life at 14000 km, and I started having oil pressure issues. A fresh oil and filter change fixed it up and I haven't had any issues since. I put a sticker on my windshield to change it at 7500 km since that happened.

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Re: DEXOS synthetic vs Conventional oil [Re: Squashtowner] #4686294
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To meet GMs dexos spec requires at least a synthetic blend and one supposes GM did this for a reason. And the oil life monitor is calibrated for at least a syn blend. Maybe there wouldnt be short term damage from using a conventional oil but if you do so you may want to shorten the OCI a bit. Personally, Id stick with the dexos spec.

Re: DEXOS synthetic vs Conventional oil [Re: Squashtowner] #4686298
03/06/18 01:14 PM
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I think most dealerships use conventional oil in many instances and many Silveradoes still are out there going strong. I wouldn't worry but I would not go over 6,000 kilometers with the oil


Always Mobil 1
2014 1.6L Nissan Versa Sedan, 5 spd, 5k OCI.
2011 3.5L Chevrolet Impala, Automatic, 5k OCI.
Re: DEXOS synthetic vs Conventional oil [Re: FermeLaPorte] #4686306
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I was also thinking that. Plus, the 5w30 here is GF-5 and SN rated. Same as the dexos 5w30 I was using all along. I don't think it would be an issue.

Re: DEXOS synthetic vs Conventional oil [Re: Squashtowner] #4686308
03/06/18 01:27 PM
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Dexos spec ain't all that. You just want a good oil. The last oil I ran was Dexos spec full synthetic and it was NG. (Magnatec Full Syn 5w30) Funny, the Magnatec SS ran well.

Got QSUD non DEXOS 10w30 iN THERE last night AND IT IS ALL GOOD AGAIN.

Id run a decent faux or real synthetic you trust. That 5.3 has pretty high power density. It would have been a z28 enhgine in the earl;y 70s if it appeard back then brought by Aliens (who don't exist around HERE at LEAST)


2014 Nissan Rogue S CVT, OC#10 47272mi-QSUD10W30+5w20 Toughguard Filter; '17 Subaru Crosstrek CVT OC#2 ?? mi-SOA/Idemitsu 0w20 + SOA Filter
Re: DEXOS synthetic vs Conventional oil [Re: Squashtowner] #4686366
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No turbo, no GDI, no problem.


2014 Passat Wolfsburg, 1995 Miata.
Re: DEXOS synthetic vs Conventional oil [Re: Squashtowner] #4686390
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Free would make that decision fairly easy. Tens of thousands of trucks and other vehicles on the road with 300K plus on the odometer running nothing but straight dino and still going strong


2010 Forester:122K
2009 Sonata :189K
2010 Tucson:55K

OCI 5K using the cheapest dino oil I can buy,usually NAPA or TSC Travelers oil.
Re: DEXOS synthetic vs Conventional oil [Re: Squashtowner] #4686406
03/06/18 02:52 PM
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Dont forget the 2012, 5.3 had AFM. Chat with some of the AFM victims before you decide on non Dexos oil.


If you want the job done right......do it yourself.
Re: DEXOS synthetic vs Conventional oil [Re: Squashtowner] #4686487
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I kept using Valvoline Max Life blend after my Encore was out of warranty. Like a previous post said. Turbo and GDI, I'd go with gen II. Turbo only (mine), gen I will do. Neither one, they're just calling for the Dexos because they don't want to stock multiple oils at the dealership.


2017 Kia Soul Plus-- VWB 5-30, 54,000 miles.
Re: DEXOS synthetic vs Conventional oil [Re: ARCOgraphite] #4686491
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Originally Posted By: ARCOgraphite
Dexos spec ain't all that. You just want a good oil. The last oil I ran was Dexos spec full synthetic and it was NG. (Magnatec Full Syn 5w30) Funny, the Magnatec SS ran well.

Got QSUD non DEXOS 10w30 iN THERE last night AND IT IS ALL GOOD AGAIN.

Id run a decent faux or real synthetic you trust. That 5.3 has pretty high power density. It would have been a z28 enhgine in the earl;y 70s if it appeard back then brought by Aliens (who don't exist around HERE at LEAST)




Have you ever found a oil you really liked?


Cannot see signatures any longer so it doesn’t matter.
Re: DEXOS synthetic vs Conventional oil [Re: ARCOgraphite] #4686504
03/06/18 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted By: ARCOgraphite
Dexos spec ain't all that. You just want a good oil. The last oil I ran was Dexos spec full synthetic and it was NG. (Magnatec Full Syn 5w30) Funny, the Magnatec SS ran well.

Got QSUD non DEXOS 10w30 iN THERE last night AND IT IS ALL GOOD AGAIN.

Id run a decent faux or real synthetic you trust. That 5.3 has pretty high power density. It would have been a z28 enhgine in the earl;y 70s if it appeard back then brought by Aliens (who don't exist around HERE at LEAST)


What reason(s) do you give for saying dexos spec 'ain't all that?'

OP,
If your vehicle is out of warranty and isn't DI, i don't think think using the conventional oil would pose a problem.


18 Sportage 2.4L AWD: Mobil1 Annual Protection 5W20 + Mobil1-104A + e air WIX10335
13 Santa Fe Sport 2.0T: Pennzoil Platinum 10W30 + FRAM XG9688 + e air WIX49670

Re: DEXOS synthetic vs Conventional oil [Re: Squashtowner] #4686575
03/06/18 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted By: Squashtowner
My 2012 Sierra 5.3 is past warranty. I've used DEXOS oil for every oil change. I now have 113000 km on the truck. I changed the oil when the dash reminder told me to on the driver information center. This has tun 14000 km on a couple instances, and that alarms me.

My new job gives me access to free mobil conventional oil. I've been using purolator filters for the past 2 years, wix prior to that.

Can I switch over to non synthetic and make my oil change interval 5000 km? It'd simplify things a lot for me.


Yes you can but as others have stated, the AFM system requires a clean oil.

If switching I would recommend OCI's based on the Severe Service Schedule.


Scars remind us of where we have been, but do not have to dictate where we are going.
Re: DEXOS synthetic vs Conventional oil [Re: Squashtowner] #4686645
03/06/18 06:48 PM
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another reason is every label aka spec is $$$$ so GM gets $$$ on every dexos spec oil sold!! as noted change more often, even every 3,000 if its free, cant hurt anything!! my aunts 99 jeep gets 6 month changes with Mobil I HM usually about 2,xxx miles, almost all short trips!!!

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