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Replaced battery today #4685709
03/05/18 10:30 PM
03/05/18 10:30 PM
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Crawfordville FL
SilverFusion2010 Offline OP
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The Bosch branded 96r gave up in 3 years of driving. Car almost didnít start this morning, went to OíRileys on lunch and put in a Super Start battery. (Iím told they are made by east penn). It is nice and fresh also, sticker says 2/18. Engine turns over with authority now.

This was the second Bosch battery that has died in 3 years. Made by Johnson Controls. Junk


2010 Ford Fusion SE 3.0L V6, 178k miles M1 HM 10w-30
Re: Replaced battery today [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4685723
03/05/18 10:40 PM
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MTL, CANADA
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How long do your batteries usually last down in Florida? I figured 3-4 years was normal down south?


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Re: Replaced battery today [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4685728
03/05/18 10:45 PM
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Crawfordville FL
SilverFusion2010 Offline OP
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I used to get 5 years out of a battery. The first Bosch that died lived its life in North Georgia before I moved back to the panhandle.

I hooked up the batteryMINDer when I got home for an overnight topping charge. Iíll be topping it up at least once a month I think.

Last edited by SilverFusion2010; 03/05/18 10:47 PM.

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Re: Replaced battery today [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4685744
03/05/18 10:57 PM
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Michigan
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Not long at all... frown


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Re: Replaced battery today [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4685746
03/05/18 10:58 PM
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mine normally lasts about 3 years, i had all major brands in past 9 years

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Re: Replaced battery today [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4685761
03/05/18 11:09 PM
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The land of USA-made Subies!
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Mine seem to last about 3 weeks longer than the warranty. My brother has been a mechanic for about 20 years now and in his opinion the 96R is one of the worst; none of the manufacturers seem to make a ďbetterĒ 96R. IMHO buy the cheapest one since youíll be replacing it in short order.

Re: Replaced battery today [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4685765
03/05/18 11:14 PM
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San Antonio, TX
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3 years is the average lifetime for a battery that lives under the hood in the engine compartment. I get 12 years out of my Bosch batteries.

Re: Replaced battery today [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4685766
03/05/18 11:17 PM
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The average temperature of the battery, followed by its average state of charge through its lifespan, will have much more effect on battery life than the sticker on the casing.

Since it takes a long time to charge from 80% to 100%, but can be drained from 100% to 80% quickly, the voltage allowed by the vehicle's voltage regulator will play a huge part in how quickly and closely it is returned to the ideal 100% state of charge, which in a vehicle, is basically never.

So it is likely the battery is junk. Most starting batteries are. Most are designed to last only the warranty period and a day, and battery manufacturers are doing their best to cheapen them to this ideal max profit point and spending part of that profit on marketing.

A wise person wanting to make the battery last far longer than the warranty period, would protect it from engine heat as best as possible, and use a grid powered charger to top it off every so often, and asap after any significant discharge of it.

Average state of charge, and average battery temperature. Both of these can be influenced by the vehicle owner to some degree.

Re: Replaced battery today [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4685841
03/06/18 01:54 AM
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Sorry about your misfortune.

I'm not familiar with the coding in the US, but on this side of the pound Bosch batteries are coded S3, S4 and S5.

Got two S5 running in two diesel vehicles like a clock for about 5 years each and that is quite good since we have hot summers and pretty could winters (100 to -5)

Re: Replaced battery today [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4685842
03/06/18 02:03 AM
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Next time consider buying a interstate battery from Costco they all come with a 42 month free replacement! Plus their $15 TO $25 cheaper than any place else.


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Re: Replaced battery today [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4685859
03/06/18 03:05 AM
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Under the hood
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Under the hood
Originally Posted By: SilverFusion2010

This was the second Bosch battery that has died in 3 years. Made by Johnson Controls. Junk


Bosch switched their US battery supplier to Exide in 2008, so any examples bought within the last decade or so would be Exide-, not JCI-made junk.

Re: Replaced battery today [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4685867
03/06/18 04:01 AM
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Specific Ocean
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Avg age of the batteries I've replaced last year was 3 years (5+2+2+3). Heck it was a record year for me seeing car batteries dropping a cell which luckily some were under warranty.

Heck I've periodically used a pulse shooter battery tester to check for battery strength but they can't predict when a cell is gonna die. I've always carried jumper cables for that reason.


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Re: Replaced battery today [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4685906
03/06/18 06:39 AM
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Crawfordville FL
SilverFusion2010 Offline OP
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Yeah I keep a set of cables with me.

This new battery has a slightly different design, no removable vent caps. Iím hoping that means it has a slightly higher internal pressure so gases recombine. It has a bit better amp ratings vs the Bosch it replaced.

Itís wait and see now.


2010 Ford Fusion SE 3.0L V6, 178k miles M1 HM 10w-30
Re: Replaced battery today [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4685907
03/06/18 06:41 AM
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Upstate NY
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I suspect batteries will continue to be an issue for most drivers. Companies trying to be competitive in their offerings, production being moved off shore, the companies selling under their own label like Walmart negotiating to save the last penny.

I guess it's best to fully test the battery spring and fall and replace if it does not test well.

At least batteries are well recycled so replacing a little early does not consume more of the Earth's resources.


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Re: Replaced battery today [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4685978
03/06/18 08:48 AM
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Its impossible to compare batteries in a forum nationwide. Spent most of my life up in NY until 10 years ago.
Im in shock how quickly batteries get killed by the heat down here ...

I used to think cold kills batteries, NO cold doesnt kill batteries, not like heat does and the South Carolina/Georgia area away from the coast gets far hotter on many days then Florida in the summer. (no ocean nearby)

Anyway, Walmart down here has 3 year replacement and I think Sams club too. We have received many free batteries for all our vehicles so far. Just got lucky and had them die right before warranty ended and then sometimes not so lucky and right after.

I now realize, heat kills batteries, never much thought about it till moving south..

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