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LCA : Replace bushing or the entire unit #4685561
03/05/18 07:37 PM
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Took in my Highlander for my struts to be replaced with OEM struts and the tech mentioned the LCA bushings are worn.

What is the general recommendation - replace entire unit (OEM is $200/unit) or replace the bushings with Moog/BA units.


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Re: LCA : Replace bushing or the entire unit [Re: MaximaGuy] #4685573
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Rust shouldn't be an issue where you are, use OE bushings if available, no aftermarket arm will be as good as OE.
Don't let anyone talk to into using poly bushings.


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Re: LCA : Replace bushing or the entire unit [Re: MaximaGuy] #4685597
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Sometimes all aftermarket arms are the same as OEM...for example on my Liberty only one manufacturer makes the control arms. But then anyone can throw bushings into it and that's where the quality differences happen. But the metal is all the same. No idea if the Highlander is like that.

I'd call/email BA and ask where they were made. If it's the same as the OEM ones, get that. I have BA ones on my LR3 and they were identical to the factory ones (made in UK). Moog I'd use if you can get the K series (no R or RK) and if the price is right.

I'm inclined to think it's less expensive to buy new ones instead of getting new bushings put in the old ones. Figure 3 bushings each at $40, so $120 per arm or $240 overall. Add ball joints too if those are in the arm. Plus way more labor and more potential for something to go wrong. Either way it's probably near a $600 job. Ask the shop for their labor estimates.

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Re: LCA : Replace bushing or the entire unit [Re: MaximaGuy] #4685615
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I just looked at the bushings, Moog does have a superior bushing for this application, it will last many time longer than the rubber only. That's what I use on GM arms that are always popping the front bushing, great part.

http://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=6820840&cc=1432848&jsn=376


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Re: LCA : Replace bushing or the entire unit [Re: MaximaGuy] #4685680
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I believe the main LCA bushing is the only bushing on the unit that is pressed. the LBJ is a separate piece which is quite neat when it comes up for replacement.

I will call BA tomorrow and also my installer (he already told me it is cheaper to replace the entire unit in one piece, wonder why when there is only ONE pressed in bushing).

If I do go down the bushing path I will buy the ones that have some play and stay away from the non-play polyurethane ones.


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Re: LCA : Replace bushing or the entire unit [Re: MaximaGuy] #4685784
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Did you check out the bushing I posted a link to? That is not a rubber bushing but a sealed metal ball joint. I would prefer that over any other solution.
Aftermarket arms can be trouble, I have had more than one off so much the front end couldn't be aligned and a few that were on the edge.


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Re: LCA : Replace bushing or the entire unit [Re: MaximaGuy] #4686237
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Tech quoted my 11 hrs labor based on the Mitchell manual. Something is wrong here..
There is this stupid transmission mount on top of the LCA bolt but other than that, loosening the motor mounts, removing the left transmission mount, raising the engine and getting the LCAs out.

Something is amiss here.


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Re: LCA : Replace bushing or the entire unit [Re: MaximaGuy] #4686360
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I am showing 9.8 hours for both sides so realistically 11 hrs is about right. It seems a little long but you never know. Can you do this yourself?

Its not the first time the book has been wrong but if that is correct you want to keep the OE arms or replace with OE or use the best bushings you can get. You don't fiddle around with el cheapo parts when that much labor is involved.

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Re: LCA : Replace bushing or the entire unit [Re: MaximaGuy] #4686382
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Honestly I wouldn't even venture to tackle this job - there is a video on the web (4 part video) with plenty of profanity

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djdejCyvc2g

where its done in 2+ hrs.

My tech told me to get the OEM LCA and he wouldn't push the bushings in as they can get destroyed.


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Re: LCA : Replace bushing or the entire unit [Re: MaximaGuy] #4686474
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I haven't done one so I don't know how fast it could be done if you knew all the ins and outs of it. From the look of it 2.5 hrs per side seems to be doable but I wouldn't price it based on that. Sorry I couldn't be more helpful.


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