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MB Owners - Mann or Mahle Oil Filters? #4684673
03/04/18 10:01 PM
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For cartridge filters, which do most of you use? It looks like MB OEM filters are made by Mahle?

TIA for your thoughts;

Re: MB Owners - Mann or Mahle Oil Filters? [Re: 2015_PSD] #4684677
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They're fairly interchangeable, but every application may be different.

For my MB diesels, the Mann and Mahle look identical in design.

For my old BMW, the Mann had the epoxied/potted ends, while Mahle had the metal end caps.

For my new BMW, the Mann and Mahle have the same epoxied/potted ends, while Hengst uses the same end design they used for my 2004 Saab (the energetic cartridge filter design), with the pleats epoxied to a plastic end cap with a felt inner ring.

Take a look at pictures. If the Mann and Mahle look like the same end cap design, I'd doubly be ok using either. If different, you may want to make a personal depiction based upon what design suits you best.

Re: MB Owners - Mann or Mahle Oil Filters? [Re: 2015_PSD] #4684702
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Both are good. I've used them both.


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Re: MB Owners - Mann or Mahle Oil Filters? [Re: 2015_PSD] #4684707
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I would not use Mahle - all of the Mahle oil filters I have used on Euro applications are far less robust than the Mann equivalents. For a MB product, I only use Mann or Purflux.


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Re: MB Owners - Mann or Mahle Oil Filters? [Re: The Critic] #4684715
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Originally Posted By: The Critic
I would not use Mahle - all of the Mahle oil filters I have used on Euro applications are far less robust than the Mann equivalents. For a MB product, I only use Mann or Purflux.
The Mahle I saw on Amazon was a Purflux. Is that normal?

Re: MB Owners - Mann or Mahle Oil Filters? [Re: 2015_PSD] #4684751
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Originally Posted By: 2015_PSD
Originally Posted By: The Critic
I would not use Mahle - all of the Mahle oil filters I have used on Euro applications are far less robust than the Mann equivalents. For a MB product, I only use Mann or Purflux.
The Mahle I saw on Amazon was a Purflux. Is that normal?


That would be news to me. What was the application?


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Re: MB Owners - Mann or Mahle Oil Filters? [Re: 2015_PSD] #4684754
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Mann, Mahle, Hengst, Purflux. Use them interchangeably.


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Re: MB Owners - Mann or Mahle Oil Filters? [Re: 2015_PSD] #4684764
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Mann and Mahle are OE filters used in almost all European manufactured cars.
They can be used interchangeably with 100% confidence


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Re: MB Owners - Mann or Mahle Oil Filters? [Re: 2015_PSD] #4684781
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Originally Posted By: 2015_PSD
The Mahle I saw on Amazon was a Purflux. Is that normal?


Another plot twist smile From a stash I have for my Toyota...


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Re: MB Owners - Mann or Mahle Oil Filters? [Re: The Critic] #4684795
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Originally Posted By: The Critic
Originally Posted By: 2015_PSD
Originally Posted By: The Critic
I would not use Mahle - all of the Mahle oil filters I have used on Euro applications are far less robust than the Mann equivalents. For a MB product, I only use Mann or Purflux.
The Mahle I saw on Amazon was a Purflux. Is that normal?
That would be news to me. What was the application?
If you look at the Mahle filter (Mahle OX814DECO) on the left and the MB filter (Mercedes-Benz 276 180 00 09) on the right, according to the pictures, they are the same--the comments even state they are the same by many of the purchasers.

Further, if you click on the Mahle filter and look at the photos, it reads Purflux on the perimeter and based upon what I have seen, Purflux filters have the "wrinkled" media. -- Mann, Mahle, & MB Filters @ Amazon

Re: MB Owners - Mann or Mahle Oil Filters? [Re: rooflessVW] #4684808
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Originally Posted By: rooflessVW
Mann, Mahle, Hengst, Purflux. Use them interchangeably.


That. But be careful with Purflux, those not made in France are becoming [censored] (even those made in France seem to be cheaper and cheaper).


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Re: MB Owners - Mann or Mahle Oil Filters? [Re: 2015_PSD] #4684839
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I use Mann or Mahle without preference and never had any problems. Being a creature of habit, if it works I keeps using it til it doesn't eg Purolator.


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Re: MB Owners - Mann or Mahle Oil Filters? [Re: 2015_PSD] #4684884
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Originally Posted By: 2015_PSD
Originally Posted By: The Critic
Originally Posted By: 2015_PSD
Originally Posted By: The Critic
I would not use Mahle - all of the Mahle oil filters I have used on Euro applications are far less robust than the Mann equivalents. For a MB product, I only use Mann or Purflux.
The Mahle I saw on Amazon was a Purflux. Is that normal?
That would be news to me. What was the application?
If you look at the Mahle filter (Mahle OX814DECO) on the left and the MB filter (Mercedes-Benz 276 180 00 09) on the right, according to the pictures, they are the same--the comments even state they are the same by many of the purchasers.

Further, if you click on the Mahle filter and look at the photos, it reads Purflux on the perimeter and based upon what I have seen, Purflux filters have the "wrinkled" media. -- Mann, Mahle, & MB Filters @ Amazon


I am familiar with this application- I have used the Mahle before and it is a poorly built filter compared to the Mann and Purflux. This is what the Mahle actually looks like:



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2007 Honda Accord 2.4 - 133K - Mobil 1 EP HM 5W-30
Re: MB Owners - Mann or Mahle Oil Filters? [Re: The Critic] #4684954
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Bosch filters are worth looking at too. In my application, they are identical to Mann (OEM) filters, and can be found for around $7/filter - http://www.rmeuropean.com/Products/0001802609-MFG1014-V5004.aspx. RMEuropean also has the Mann version for around $10. I have both, and there is literally no difference. I also purchased the Hengst and Mahle filters for comparison. While they are not bad filters, I think the Mann/Bosch/OEM ones are just better built on my application.


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Re: MB Owners - Mann or Mahle Oil Filters? [Re: 2015_PSD] #4684974
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Use either, have been interchanging them for years on the Volvos, and will do the same in our MB.


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