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#4684329 - 03/04/18 05:16 PM Springfield Saint AR ??
lukejo Offline


Registered: 09/21/11
Posts: 404
Loc: IL
Considering.
Opinions on THIS gun?
Anything you like better in the MSRP range of $800-$1100....from a manufacturer (not a build).

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#4684334 - 03/04/18 05:22 PM Re: Springfield Saint AR ?? [Re: lukejo]
lukejo Offline


Registered: 09/21/11
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Opinions on Savage Recon too?

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#4684344 - 03/04/18 05:34 PM Re: Springfield Saint AR ?? [Re: lukejo]
hatt Offline


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If you're going to spend $800-1000 on a plain AR buy a Colt. Never mind that Springfield is shady.
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#4684385 - 03/04/18 05:56 PM Re: Springfield Saint AR ?? [Re: lukejo]
MParr Offline


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lukejo
Either is fine. The Savage will probably be more accurate.
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#4684396 - 03/04/18 06:01 PM Re: Springfield Saint AR ?? [Re: lukejo]
lukejo Offline


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Watching YouTube....Hickok45 is big on the Ruger MPR 18" for about $200 cheaper. I don't see many reviews on it.

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#4684419 - 03/04/18 06:17 PM Re: Springfield Saint AR ?? [Re: lukejo]
Reddy45 Offline


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Posts: 2973
Loc: USA
This isn't the best time to buy an AR. If you can wait a few months the panic should subside and you may save a few hundred bucks.

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#4684449 - 03/04/18 06:44 PM Re: Springfield Saint AR ?? [Re: hatt]
JHZR2 Offline



Registered: 12/14/02
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Loc: New Jersey
Originally Posted By: hatt
If you're going to spend $800-1000 on a plain AR buy a Colt. Never mind that Springfield is shady.


Yeah that's what I was going to say. $800-900 will buy you a real Colt 6920 M4, even in NJ.

The Saint training movie looks interesting...

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#4684560 - 03/04/18 08:25 PM Re: Springfield Saint AR ?? [Re: Reddy45]
Linctex Offline


Registered: 12/31/16
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Originally Posted By: Reddy45
This isn't the best time to buy an AR. If you can wait a few months the panic should subside and you may save a few hundred bucks.


AGREED!!

Smith & Wesson M&P series are nice.... see what Palmetto State Arm has for sale
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#4684770 - 03/05/18 03:12 AM Re: Springfield Saint AR ?? [Re: lukejo]
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Prices really haven't gone up that much. Here is a nice Smith & Wesson M&P for just $569.00. If you wait, you're just waiting for the next crackpot. And there WILL be another.

https://www.cdnnsports.com/smith-wesson-m-p15-556-sport-ii-custom-pack.html?___SID=U#.Wp0JUrdy53E

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#4685059 - 03/05/18 10:45 AM Re: Springfield Saint AR ?? [Re: lukejo]
bubbatime Offline


Registered: 03/18/08
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Loc: South Florida
No. Ive owned 40 or 50 of these style rifles. My favorite to this day? The pencil barrel Colt 6720. Once you have it in your hand, you know why. Its super light weight (the Saint, Ruger, and Smith are heavy pigs in comparison)

I cant stress enough how good this gun is. Id buy it first. If you want a wiz bang gun later, then go ahead. But I think you will always appreciate the 6720.

Plus I've seen quite a few reports on the net of the Saint problems. They have only built this style gun for what, 2 years? They are still learning. Colt has been building the AR for almost 60 years! They know what they are doing.

Colt 6720 appears to be about $818 currently. In my opinion, you would be absolutely insane to spend more money on a Saint. Yes, the Saint comes with some nice parts, but you can add those same parts to the Colt in 5 minutes by watching a YouTube video if you are not familiar with the platform.
https://gunprime.com/product/colt-lightweight-tac-carbine-ar6720-5-56-16-lw-black-30rd/

https://gun.deals/search/apachesolr_search/AR6720?is_firearms_wikiarms=0
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#4686809 - 03/06/18 08:36 PM Re: Springfield Saint AR ?? [Re: lukejo]
MParr Offline


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Ever wonder why our military went from Colt to FN for their M4s? Reliability problems in Afghanistan.
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#4686855 - 03/06/18 09:07 PM Re: Springfield Saint AR ?? [Re: MParr]
bubbatime Offline


Registered: 03/18/08
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Loc: South Florida
Originally Posted By: MParr
Ever wonder why our military went from Colt to FN for their M4s? Reliability problems in Afghanistan.


Proof? Because they both had contracts at the same time, and both were providing guns as the same exact time. Kind of kills your argument, but if you got proof, lets here it.
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#4686877 - 03/06/18 09:23 PM Re: Springfield Saint AR ?? [Re: bubbatime]
AMC Offline


Registered: 10/17/10
Posts: 893
Loc: South Eastern, CT
Originally Posted By: bubbatime
Originally Posted By: MParr
Ever wonder why our military went from Colt to FN for their M4s? Reliability problems in Afghanistan.


Proof? Because they both had contracts at the same time, and both were providing guns as the same exact time. Kind of kills your argument, but if you got proof, lets here it.


I have first hand experience that agrees with MParr. In my unit we had a mixture of newer Colt and FN M-16's for the lower ranking soldiers and support people. Everyone agreed the FN's malfunctioned less, seemed more accurate and the uppers and lowers fit together much tighter, even though the rifles were about the same age and round counts.

I own an older Colt 1911 Mark 4, Many of my friends own various Springfield 1911's and I will happily tell you the Springfield 1911's are head and shoulders above my Colt in every regard. The only off putting issue for me about the Springfield's are that they are made in Brazil but assembled and tested here.

I do agree that the Springfield Saint is probably too new to bother with yet. Nevermind the value/price point isn't great.
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#4687100 - 03/07/18 07:01 AM Re: Springfield Saint AR ?? [Re: bubbatime]
MParr Offline


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Wanat, Afghanistan!
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#4687270 - 03/07/18 09:25 AM Re: Springfield Saint AR ?? [Re: lukejo]
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Loc: Western usa
Lots of good choices, the Ruger MPR is hard to beat. 18” bbl : alum handguard : rifle length gas block. Last I checked around $650.00 + ffl fee etc..

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