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#4684241 - 03/04/18 03:58 PM best detergent oil and filter
silver1 Offline


Registered: 01/30/12
Posts: 54
Loc: indiana
hi all its been a wile.I picked up an old accord for my son it runs great 155k but the valve train is pretty dirty I'm not a fan of additives but would like some recommendations on a reasonable priced oil and filter to slowly clean it up. All thoughts and ideas greatly appreciated.

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#4684248 - 03/04/18 04:11 PM Re: best detergent oil and filter [Re: silver1]
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Registered: 10/09/04
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Loc: Cincinnati, OH, USA
I'm a personal fan of PYB and a high efficiency synthetic/blend filter such as an Ultra (or slightly more expensive Wix/NAPA Gold), but I've also had good results with short OCIs of Maxlife red bottle (synthetic blend) and a cheaper quality filter such as a Tough Guard or even an Extra Guard. Biggest thing is to keep OCIs short at first & cut open the filter to make sure it's not full & going into bypass.


Edited by bullwinkle (03/04/18 04:31 PM)
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#4684257 - 03/04/18 04:17 PM Re: best detergent oil and filter [Re: silver1]
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SuperTech at Walmart and a Fram Toughgauard. Get some new crush washers at a Honda dealer for the drain plug.
I use to be a mechanic at a Honda dealer but now work on semis.
If you ask for one, they might just toss it to you for free rather than ringing you up. I've had a few tossed to me for free in the past.
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#4684262 - 03/04/18 04:19 PM Re: best detergent oil and filter [Re: silver1]
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I'm not a fan of additives, but I'm no mechanic either. As far as cleaning, how do you know it's dirty? Did you pull a valve cover to inspect?

If it was me I'd just use a shorter OCI, if anything. "Lots" of cars motor on while being filthy on the inside. On a short OCI, anything will work, so it might as well be cheap. Same for filter. Not sure it's worth over-thinking.
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#4684276 - 03/04/18 04:27 PM Re: best detergent oil and filter [Re: silver1]
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Registered: 06/29/11
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A HDEO for three 2k intervals with a Fram extra gard (orange can)

Then pick a nice 5w-30 and a Fram ultra. I tend to prefer M1 products but all the branded oils are very good. The Supertech dexos1 oils are good value if you donít want to sit for rebates or sales.
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#4684286 - 03/04/18 04:33 PM Re: best detergent oil and filter [Re: silver1]
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My brother actually picked up an '01 Civic super cheap from a relative with 196K-once he gets the numerous oil leaks fixed, it's getting a regimen of PYB or Maxlife Red and frequent oil filter changes (including cut open inspections)-it'll be a good test for this program.
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#4684292 - 03/04/18 04:38 PM Re: best detergent oil and filter [Re: silver1]
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Registered: 05/30/10
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I'd use mobil high mileage, coventional. See how much it uses, before trying a syn. Mobil claims their hm oils have more cleaning ability. Or an hdeo 5w 40 with kreen added.


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#4684294 - 03/04/18 04:40 PM Re: best detergent oil and filter [Re: supton]
silver1 Offline


Registered: 01/30/12
Posts: 54
Loc: indiana
[quote=supton]I'm not a fan of additives, but I'm no mechanic either. As far as cleaning, how do you know it's dirty? Did you pull a valve cover to inspect?

Thanks for the reply's. I dont have the car home yet it was just an observation looking down the oil fill when I was checking the blow by it was i dirtier than I like

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#4684312 - 03/04/18 05:00 PM Re: best detergent oil and filter [Re: silver1]
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Get a case of jobber oil filters from rockauto, like ecogard for less than $2 a piece, and cheap clearance oil (or Super S syn blend / Supertech) and do 3k OCIs. I know u donít like additives, but I would use a 5 min idle flush on the first OCIs. The jobbers are good for 5k miles so no need to worry.
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#4684394 - 03/04/18 06:00 PM Re: best detergent oil and filter [Re: silver1]
BJD78 Offline


Registered: 08/05/17
Posts: 493
Loc: Nebraska
Originally Posted By: silver1
hi all its been a wile.I picked up an old accord for my son it runs great 155k but the valve train is pretty dirty I'm not a fan of additives but would like some recommendations on a reasonable priced oil and filter to slowly clean it up. All thoughts and ideas greatly appreciated.


That is the best way to do it, maybe change the oil and filter at 3K for a couple of changes and that will clean it up. Plenty of detergents in engine oil to clean the oil without additives. A short 3k OCI will allow that oil to clean the engine for you...it has it's own detergents. Anything it can't clean out might be best left where it is. I have seen more than a few engines get cleaned to well and then the seals and gaskets leak. At 155k an overly aggressive cleaning with aditives might dislodge some gunk and start some leaks. Just using oil with a 3k OCI is the best way/ Often these oil cleaning or oil flushes require dropping the oil pan and replacing oil seals. That can run into a big DIY job and or a major expense if jobbing it out.

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#4684437 - 03/04/18 06:31 PM Re: best detergent oil and filter [Re: silver1]
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Registered: 04/10/16
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Valvoline Maxlife and a Wix/Napa Gold filter at 3,000 mile intervals and as much time at operating temp as possible. (Aka minimal short trips or stop/start errand trips.) I'm not one to use additives when they aren't justified, but the proper amount of Seafoam in the oil for 500-1,000 miles can really help clean up gunk.
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#4684458 - 03/04/18 06:52 PM Re: best detergent oil and filter [Re: bullwinkle]
silver1 Offline


Registered: 01/30/12
Posts: 54
Loc: indiana
Originally Posted By: bullwinkle
My brother actually picked up an '01 Civic super cheap from a relative with 196K-once he gets the numerous oil leaks fixed, it's getting a regimen of PYB or Maxlife Red and frequent oil f
filter changes (including cut open inspections)-it'll be a good test for this program.


as far as cutting open the oil filter i what would i be looking for
Oh and did you go to Colerain? bullwinkle

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#4684502 - 03/04/18 07:31 PM Re: best detergent oil and filter [Re: silver1]
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Registered: 09/26/14
Posts: 1981
Loc: US-WA
In my experience both HDEO and Euro oils will do the trick in a short order.
Originally Posted By: silver1

as far as cutting open the oil filter i what would i be looking for

Look for heavy contamination.
HDEO RT6 in a 242 I6

Chevron Supreme followed by 0w40 GC on the same filter. GM 2.8L V6


And if using a purolator
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#4684544 - 03/04/18 08:15 PM Re: best detergent oil and filter [Re: Dyusik]
2004tdigls Offline


Registered: 10/31/11
Posts: 484
Loc: maple ridge, bc
YUK!

well this is obvious evidence that HDEOs will remove sludge from dirty engines

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#4684718 - 03/04/18 11:16 PM Re: best detergent oil and filter [Re: Alex_V]
Konstantine Offline


Registered: 01/12/18
Posts: 44
Loc: Rockies
I'd have to agree, but id go with a different filter

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