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#4683858 - 03/04/18 08:23 AM Rally Cars
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Just did about 50 miles of driving on snow covered twisting roads in the Canadian Rocky Mountains between Banff and Radium. Was thinking about what cars would make a good amateur rally car, say from 2000 to 2010 vintage. Your opinions?

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#4683898 - 03/04/18 09:05 AM Re: Rally Cars [Re: Snagglefoot]
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Audi Quattro, Subaru AWD are a couple that come to mind that can be had cheap enough that age.
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#4683905 - 03/04/18 09:12 AM Re: Rally Cars [Re: Snagglefoot]
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#4683916 - 03/04/18 09:25 AM Re: Rally Cars [Re: Snagglefoot]
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A hopped up bug, low power Porsche, any BMW 3 series. a 2wd Ranger, Colorado, a Miata. Small cheap RWDs. No links, but I saw video of an '87 535i running in the Newfoundland Targa. Newbs and they finished 2nd. In the video was a Porsche catching air and breaking in 2 upon landing. The clip of another rally was a pair of P cars running on snow covered pine needles in the Ardenne forest. You go for it. I had a '51 Ford that I drove on forest roads. I'm prejudiced toward RWDs. I'm sure that there are some cheap fun FWDs too.
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#4683922 - 03/04/18 09:29 AM Re: Rally Cars [Re: Snagglefoot]
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Registered: 12/18/06
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Originally Posted By: Snagglefoot
Was thinking about what cars would make a good amateur rally car, say from 2000 to 2010 vintage. Your opinions?


A car that's already been built!

https://jalopnik.com/maybe-what-that-you-need-in-your-life-is-this-rally-car-1793898618

2011 Fiesta B-Spec... fully prepped and ready to race. Sold for $12,200.

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#4683924 - 03/04/18 09:34 AM Re: Rally Cars [Re: Snagglefoot]
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Renault 5 Turbo! Lightweight fun...
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#4683962 - 03/04/18 10:14 AM Re: Rally Cars [Re: Snagglefoot]
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Originally Posted By: Snagglefoot
Just did about 50 miles of driving on snow covered twisting roads in the Canadian Rocky Mountains between Banff and Radium. Was thinking about what cars would make a good amateur rally car, say from 2000 to 2010 vintage. Your opinions?


What's cheap to buy, and easy to pull out of a ditch.

Someone had to say it...

IMO for playing on snow covered roads, and not on a course, I'd err towards lower power. AWD and snows, sure, but something that would make 30mph feel like 9/10ths. Just to keep it semi-legal and far from actual danger.
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#4683978 - 03/04/18 10:40 AM Re: Rally Cars [Re: SteveSRT8]
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Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
Renault 5 Turbo! Lightweight fun...

I agree but he said 2000-2010.
Those R5 Copa Turbos you're thinking about are from the Group B era.
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#4683980 - 03/04/18 10:40 AM Re: Rally Cars [Re: Snagglefoot]
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3 series BMWs are popular for rallies in Finland.
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#4683981 - 03/04/18 10:42 AM Re: Rally Cars [Re: KD0AXS]
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Originally Posted By: KD0AXS

This!!

...and my 2003 Evolution VIII (sold frown )
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#4684041 - 03/04/18 11:47 AM Re: Rally Cars [Re: MrHorspwer]
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Originally Posted By: MrHorspwer

https://jalopnik.com/maybe-what-that-you-need-in-your-life-is-this-rally-car-1793898618
2011 Fiesta B-Spec... fully prepped and ready to race. Sold for $12,200.


That was a steal! You can't build anything similar that cheap.
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#4684075 - 03/04/18 12:29 PM Re: Rally Cars [Re: Snagglefoot]
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I once ran an X5 in the ALCAN Winter Rally, but I prefer something more along the lines of an STi or S4...
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#4684091 - 03/04/18 12:48 PM Re: Rally Cars [Re: KD0AXS]
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Originally Posted By: KD0AXS



I think this ^ with a 2.0 turbo swap from a new WRX would be the cat's booty, along with bolt-ons and a tune. This body style is great. Other inexpensives would be Impreza Sports or the Saab 9-2x; they get you 75% of the WRX experience for about 25% of the cost.

I have no problems with Audis but the 98-2008ish Subarus are literally like Legos- find a part you like, and it fits nearly everything Subaru made during any of those years. Sure, there are differences like hubs and wheel bearings, but engine parts, suspension parts, brakes, etc literally are one-size-fits-all smile Plus they're relatively cheap compared to German parts (and cars!)

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#4686920 - 03/06/18 10:06 PM Re: Rally Cars [Re: MrHorspwer]
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Originally Posted By: MrHorspwer
Originally Posted By: Snagglefoot
Was thinking about what cars would make a good amateur rally car, say from 2000 to 2010 vintage. Your opinions?


A car that's already been built!

https://jalopnik.com/maybe-what-that-you-need-in-your-life-is-this-rally-car-1793898618

2011 Fiesta B-Spec... fully prepped and ready to race. Sold for $12,200.


I wonder if Tim O'Neil built that. shrug

Those Racetech halo seats and mounts are about $2500.00 all by themselves!

I would love to bring in a tarmac rally prepped and modded Escort Cossie RS/WRC as there are so few of those here in the states. drive grin2
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#4687262 - 03/07/18 09:20 AM Re: Rally Cars [Re: dailydriver]
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The answer always is?

https://rallytakeover.kinja.com/can-you-rally-a-miata-1770272472
For a cheap fun rwd rally cross car, and back road carver they are probably the best, throw on some skinny square edged snows and enjoy! For running an actual performance stage rally, then probably not, due to adding a full cage and permanent roof etc...


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