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K129 and the Glomar Explorer #4683763
03/04/18 02:25 AM
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Re: K129 and the Glomar Explorer [Re: Shannow] #4683781
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As a spook ship I suppose Glomar Explorer's security might have been a bit tighter than on Glomar Challenger.

I went down to look at that when it was in Leith, and, thinking it was open to the public, went up the gangplank and wandered around a bit. Didn't seem to be anyone about, but eventually I bumped into this girl with a clipboard.

"Oh hello, We're in the wardroom. Come along and get yourself a coffee. We'll start in 5 minutes"

Ok, I thought, I could do with a coffee.

Room had maybe 20 people in it who didn't seem to know each other. Can't remember but I don't think I spoke to anyone. Eventually a geezer turned up and welcomed us on board, and asked us to introduce ourselves, so I did. "Ed Lithgow, Edinburgh University". No alarms or sirens. Then, after a brief intro to the ship and the up-coming research cruise they started talking about cabin allocations and apologized for me not being on the list yet, "Its often out of date" and I thought I'd better own up.

Always rather regretted that, though. It would have been interesting to see how long I could get away with it. The ship sailed that evening and it might have been a while before they could put me ashore.

You never know, I might have turned out a talented oceanographer.

OTOH, if that was a spook ship too I might have been buried at sea.

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Re: K129 and the Glomar Explorer [Re: Shannow] #4683901
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I saw a TV special on this several years ago, History channel maybe? An amazing clandestine mission to say the least.

Re: K129 and the Glomar Explorer [Re: Shannow] #4683904
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fascinating.

thanks for that.


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Re: K129 and the Glomar Explorer [Re: Shannow] #4684138
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I saw the Glomar Explorer anchored in the Sacramento River in about 1975 on a trip to Vallejo.

Re: K129 and the Glomar Explorer [Re: Shannow] #4684165
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Boy, that really stirs things up!

Thanks for the share!


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Re: K129 and the Glomar Explorer [Re: Shannow] #4684208
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One of the enduring mysteries of this entire saga of big-money cold war intrigue is how easily the CIA was able to locate this wreck in 16,000' of water when the Soviets couldn't find their own boat despite having deployed substantial assets to search for it.
Almost as though the CIA knew where to look from the start.


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Re: K129 and the Glomar Explorer [Re: fdcg27] #4684210
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Originally Posted By: fdcg27
One of the enduring mysteries of this entire saga of big-money cold war intrigue is how easily the CIA was able to locate this wreck in 16,000' of water when the Soviets couldn't find their own boat despite having deployed substantial assets to search for it.
Almost as though the CIA knew where to look from the start.


That's somewhat covered in the 2nd video.


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Re: K129 and the Glomar Explorer [Re: Shannow] #4684273
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An interesting story. I have memories of stories about mining the sea floor for manganese nodules, probably from Popular Science or Popular Mechanics magazines, I read them as a kid. The stories quickly faded and turned into a sort of "what ever happened to mining the sea floor?" thought.

On the subject of deep sea stuff, here's a good read on the smallest nuclear powered submarine. It originally caught my eye because a picture of it showed the conning tower is little higher than a man. It has some interesting capabilities, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_submarine_NR-1

Ducked, great story, gave me a good chuckle, my wife thought it was funny too.


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Re: K129 and the Glomar Explorer [Re: fdcg27] #4684314
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Originally Posted By: fdcg27
... to locate this wreck in 16,000' of water ...


That's over 7,000 PSI on the hull ... bet that was fun being in a tube that's about to implode.

Re: K129 and the Glomar Explorer [Re: ZeeOSix] #4684433
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Well, a little over 6900 by my calculations but I could be wrong.
The boat's crush depth would have been reached long before the wreck hit the bottom.
An awful way for the crew aboard to die, although it would have at least been quick.


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Re: K129 and the Glomar Explorer [Re: fdcg27] #4684506
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Originally Posted By: fdcg27
Well, a little over 6900 by my calculations but I could be wrong.
The boat's crush depth would have been reached long before the wreck hit the bottom.
An awful way for the crew aboard to die, although it would have at least been quick.


If the missile went off to sink it, I wonder how many that killed before the sinking?


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Re: K129 and the Glomar Explorer [Re: Rick in PA] #4684642
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Originally Posted By: Rick in PA


Ducked, great story, gave me a good chuckle, my wife thought it was funny too.


"There is a tide in the affairs of men, Which taken at the flood, leads on to fortune. Omitted, all the voyage of their life is bound in shallows and in miseries."

Re: K129 and the Glomar Explorer [Re: Rick in PA] #4684656
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Originally Posted By: Rick in PA


On the subject of deep sea stuff, here's a good read on the smallest nuclear powered submarine.


"and burned chlorate candles to produce oxygen" - Seems a bit primitive in context. I suppose an oxygen generator must be a bulky item.

Re: K129 and the Glomar Explorer [Re: fdcg27] #4684779
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Originally Posted By: fdcg27
One of the enduring mysteries of this entire saga of big-money cold war intrigue is how easily the CIA was able to locate this wreck in 16,000' of water when the Soviets couldn't find their own boat despite having deployed substantial assets to search for it.
Almost as though the CIA knew where to look from the start.


Read "Blind Man's Bluff"

Lays it out in detail.

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