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1GR-FE Favorite OIl #4682939
03/03/18 06:14 AM
03/03/18 06:14 AM
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Bucks, PA
zfasts03 Offline OP
zfasts03  Offline OP
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Bucks, PA
What is your favorite oil for a Toyota 4.0 1GR-FE Engine? (2018 4Runner)

The owners manual call for 0w-20, but states thicker oil may be better suited in some more demanding use.

I will be doing a lot of short trip and no towing, just normal driving, so I am leaning towards a 0w-20.

I am looking for quiet, smooth, low wear numbers and good fuel economy.

I am looking at a 1 year/4000-8000 mile oil change interval. TRD filter will be used.

CONSIDERING:
Schaeffers 0w-20
Amsoil Sig. Ser. 0w-20
TGMO 0w-20
Mobil1 AFE 0w-20
Valvoline SynPower 0w-20

Last edited by zfasts03; 03/03/18 06:16 AM.

03 Corvette Z06
-Amsoil 5w-30 SS
07 Honda Accord 2.4L
-Amsoil 5w-20 SS
16 Suburban 5.3L
-M1 0w-20, XG10575
18 4Runner TRD Off Road
- Amsoil 0w-30 SS, TRD filter
Re: 1GR-FE Favorite OIl [Re: zfasts03] #4682946
03/03/18 06:28 AM
03/03/18 06:28 AM
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texas
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texas
Any name brand low cost synthetic will do. My sienna likes M1 afe when i cab get it for $10/jug, penzoilplatinum at w12.jug and QSUD at $8/ jug.

10k mile runs on regular toyota oem filter and oil is looks good in the pan. No uoa but i have ran well over 150k on previous toyotas with this same philosophy. Just keep it changed and youll be fine.

Re: 1GR-FE Favorite OIl [Re: zfasts03] #4682956
03/03/18 06:44 AM
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Rockwall, Texas
Old Mustang Guy Offline
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Rockwall, Texas
I agree all of the above. I've got AFE because it's so easily available. I get the 6 packs when on sale at Costco or the jugs at Wallys.

Re: 1GR-FE Favorite OIl [Re: zfasts03] #4682957
03/03/18 06:44 AM
03/03/18 06:44 AM
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skyactiv Offline
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It is a Toyota, so choose wisely as putting 300K on one is a pipe dream.


Wife: 15' Audi A4 quattro 6 speed manual
Me: 13' VW GTI 3 door 6 speed manual
Wanted: 2019 Ford Ranger
Re: 1GR-FE Favorite OIl [Re: zfasts03] #4682977
03/03/18 07:21 AM
03/03/18 07:21 AM
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JLTD Offline
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Originally Posted By: zfasts03
What is your favorite oil for a Toyota 4.0 1GR-FE Engine? (2018 4Runner)

The owners manual call for 0w-20, but states thicker oil may be better suited in some more demanding use.

I will be doing a lot of short trip and no towing, just normal driving, so I am leaning towards a 0w-20.

I am looking for quiet, smooth, low wear numbers and good fuel economy.

I am looking at a 1 year/4000-8000 mile oil change interval. TRD filter will be used.

CONSIDERING:
Schaeffers 0w-20
Amsoil Sig. Ser. 0w-20
TGMO 0w-20
Mobil1 AFE 0w-20
Valvoline SynPower 0w-20


I've pretty much thinking that I'll go with 5w30 in mine, as elsewhere in the world (I looked at Australia) that's what is recommended. BUT-

I've considered running three of the five you mentioned; at a one year up to 8000 OCI all of them should be good to go. I'm looking at about 10-12k miles per year so bought some Amsoil to see how that does.

And since there's so much debate on thick versus thin here, I've got hold of 20 grade Amsoil also. I'm going to run that first, then run the 5w30 and compare UOAs. In day to day driving I'm not expecting any difference in the UOAs.

But next summer I am planning on towing heavy so will make sure to have the 30 grade oil in then. I agree completely with the manual, that heavier use requires a heavier oil.


I'm a thickie; assimilate
But 20s have their place

Using AMSOIL

Hers: 2008 Jeep Liberty 138k, SS 5w30/Amsoil

His: 2015 4Runner 41k, OE 5w30/Wix

Re: 1GR-FE Favorite OIl [Re: zfasts03] #4682984
03/03/18 07:28 AM
03/03/18 07:28 AM
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Southern VA
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With the $12 rebate per 5 qt. jug from Mobil going on right now, I'd look at Mobil 1 EP or AFE 0w-20. If you prefer Pennzoil, they have a $10 rebate per 5qt jug on Pennzoil Ultra Platinum or Platinum.


Wife: 08 Honda CR-V 4WD, M1 5W-20
Me: 11 Toyota Tundra DC 4WD 5.7L, PP 5W-30
Me Work: 06 Ford Explorer 4WD 4.0L, Pennzoil 5W-30
Son: 14 Toyota Corolla S, M1 AFE 0W-20
Re: 1GR-FE Favorite OIl [Re: zfasts03] #4683023
03/03/18 08:38 AM
03/03/18 08:38 AM
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MTL, CANADA
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M1 AFE or TGMO


2007 Corolla Red Pearl 155k miles
PP 0w20 & ST 4967

Re: 1GR-FE Favorite OIl [Re: zfasts03] #4683058
03/03/18 09:29 AM
03/03/18 09:29 AM
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Central Valley, CA
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I put 70K on a 2014 5th Gen 4Runner trail several years ago. Used TGMO and a Wix filter. TGMO stayed in the crankcase for about 7K. Sometimes the WIX stayed on for two OCIs. Still have a few cases of the TGMO if interested. It is listed in the for sale section for $50 per case.

Re: 1GR-FE Favorite OIl [Re: skyactiv] #4683061
03/03/18 09:34 AM
03/03/18 09:34 AM
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Posts: 486
Central Valley, CA
e55amgbenz007 Offline
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Central Valley, CA
Originally Posted By: skyactiv
It is a Toyota, so choose wisely as putting 300K on one is a pipe dream.


What do you base that statement on? Because the data and my real life experience prove otherwise.

Re: 1GR-FE Favorite OIl [Re: e55amgbenz007] #4683067
03/03/18 09:45 AM
03/03/18 09:45 AM
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JLTD Offline
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Originally Posted By: e55amgbenz007
Originally Posted By: skyactiv
It is a Toyota, so choose wisely as putting 300K on one is a pipe dream.


What do you base that statement on? Because the data and my real life experience prove otherwise.


I took that as sarcasm....I bought my 4Runner, in part, due to the bulletproof reputation.


Originally Posted By: e55amgbenz007
I put 70K on a 2014 5th Gen 4Runner trail several years ago. Used TGMO and a Wix filter. TGMO stayed in the crankcase for about 7K. Sometimes the WIX stayed on for two OCIs. Still have a few cases of the TGMO if interested. It is listed in the for sale section for $50 per case.


How did the Wix hold up after two 7k intervals? I like the Wix but their website indicates 7500 miles (somewhere), and it is a cellulose media.

Last edited by JLTD; 03/03/18 09:48 AM.

I'm a thickie; assimilate
But 20s have their place

Using AMSOIL

Hers: 2008 Jeep Liberty 138k, SS 5w30/Amsoil

His: 2015 4Runner 41k, OE 5w30/Wix

Re: 1GR-FE Favorite OIl [Re: skyactiv] #4683069
03/03/18 09:46 AM
03/03/18 09:46 AM
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Wet side WA
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Originally Posted By: skyactiv
It is a Toyota, so choose wisely as putting 300K on one is a pipe dream.


https://highmileclub.wordpress.com/tag/toyota/


2004 Corolla 126649
Out: VML 5w-30 TG4967 OCI 5007 Miles
In: EDGE EP 5W-30 Bosch 3311 122537 7-18-18
2006 Duramax 74478
Out: T6 5W-40 M1-303
In: T6 5W-40 XG9100 73705 4-22-18
Re: 1GR-FE Favorite OIl [Re: zfasts03] #4683070
03/03/18 09:47 AM
03/03/18 09:47 AM
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Where the wind comes sweepin'
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Where the wind comes sweepin'
Mine loves PUP 5W30.

Re: 1GR-FE Favorite OIl [Re: zfasts03] #4683076
03/03/18 09:55 AM
03/03/18 09:55 AM
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Posts: 2,997
WI.
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WI.
at 135k my '06 runs, shifts and 4WD is all perfect uses zero oil..goes down the road like Sherman taking Atlanta. holding up real nice for a old machine, here's a 09/2017 pic with the winter wheels on..




16 Civic Coupe Touring 38k
640:1 TCW-3 E091
Edge 0/40 XG7317
Firehawk Indy 500

06 4Runner SR5 146k
640:1 TCW-3
PP 5/30 XG3614
Falken Wildpeak AT3W
Re: 1GR-FE Favorite OIl [Re: zfasts03] #4683080
03/03/18 09:59 AM
03/03/18 09:59 AM
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Nashville, TN via Memphis
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My 2007 Tacoma PreRunner has an older version of the 1GR-FE, and, at that time, Toyota spec'd a 5W-30, so I've always used a 30W. Matter of fact, it's never had anything but Mobil 1 in the crankcase, since I drained the factory fill at 3000 miles. Initially started with standard M1, then tried some of the old Truck & SUV formula (they stopped making it) a couple of times. Then, around 75,000 miles, I started using the Extended Performance variety at 8-10,000 mile OCIs, and no problems to report.

The engine uses no oil even through 10K-plus OCIs.

Couple questions: Has Toyota changed the tolerances on the 1GR-FE, making them tighter, to run a 20W? Or, are they calling for a 20W just for economy?

Also, I know the newer versions of this engine have VVT-i on the exhaust cams as well. That brings up another question - could using a different viscosity than what is specified cause any issues with that dual VVT-i setup?


16 WRX - PPPP
07 Tacoma V6 - M1 EP 5W-30, Fram Ultra, 10K OCIs, 198K
07 Yamaha R1 - Rotella T6 5W-40, Bosch 3300
07 Yamaha YZ-250, Klotz, Rotella

Re: 1GR-FE Favorite OIl [Re: zfasts03] #4683087
03/03/18 10:08 AM
03/03/18 10:08 AM
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Idaho
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Idaho
I would use a 0W-30 M1.


2015 Ford F150 2.7
2018 Ford F350 6.2
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