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PQIA Toyota 0w20 results are something!!
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03/02/18 10:26 PM
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PQIA just tested Toyota 0w20... And it is quite impressive.
10+ TBN
787 ppm of molybdenum
Viscosity index of 227 !!
Boron almost 200 ppm
NOACK is 12.7
And CCS of just a bit over 4100.
Of course Mobil is making their OEM oil here in the US. This is quite an interesting and impressive 0w20 made by M1.
Last edited by bbhero; 03/02/18 10:27 PM.
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Re: PQIA Toyota 0w20 results are something!!
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03/02/18 10:35 PM
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That’s the second stout analysis we’ve seen today.
Is this better than M1? ;-))
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Re: PQIA Toyota 0w20 results are something!!
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03/02/18 10:41 PM
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Re: PQIA Toyota 0w20 results are something!!
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Hmmmm... I really doubt it. But.. this special "sauce" for Toyotas looks quite good. It's obvious they have gone to a very high molybdenum formulation to help with any boundary layer oil circumstances. I'd run this Toyota 0w20, Valvoline Advanced Synthetic 0w20 or Mobil 1 Extended Performance if I had to run a 0w20.
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Re: PQIA Toyota 0w20 results are something!!
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03/02/18 10:52 PM
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Is this is a reformulation, or does Canada get a different TGMO? I sent off a sample for a VOA about a year ago and it's quite different. 
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Re: PQIA Toyota 0w20 results are something!!
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03/02/18 11:27 PM
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The lower Ca is likely because of the Mg. That's the strategy XOM uses in M1 products as well.
I'd love to see PQIA evaluate theTGMO 0W16.
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Re: PQIA Toyota 0w20 results are something!!
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Just did a quick check on a half dozen other virgin analysis on this website. Has anyone seen a moly concentration as high as 787 ppm? I appreciate the test, but either the oil was completely re formulated or the lab made a mistake.
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Re: PQIA Toyota 0w20 results are something!!
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Is this is a reformulation, or does Canada get a different TGMO? I sent off a sample for a VOA about a year ago and it's quite different. Maybe ready for the "plus" part?
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Re: PQIA Toyota 0w20 results are something!!
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The highish volatility is predictable, given the high viscosity index and low CCS numbers. It may not be such a great plan for engines notorious for carbon-clogged rings.
Last edited by CR94; 03/03/18 12:55 AM.
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Re: PQIA Toyota 0w20 results are something!!
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03/03/18 03:29 AM
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I'm not a 0W20 guy, but that oil looks impressive to me.
Zinc ~ 880 ppm (healthy)
Moly ~ 790 ppm (massive)
Boron ~ 200 ppm (generous)
TBN ~ 10.3 (long life)
And the Noack is still reasonable at 12.9 %, with a KV100 of 8.36 cSt.
Mix it 50:50 with a HDEO 15W40 mineral, to make something like a 10W30 semi-synthetic, and I would definitely give it a run.
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Re: PQIA Toyota 0w20 results are something!!
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Why mixing...when he can buy HDEO 10w30 with greater zddp levels & same TBN...ok he will miss only Moly then...
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