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#4682481 - 03/02/18 04:32 PM VOA Valvoline Synthetic Dexos1 Gen 2 5w30
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Enjoy the new Dexos1Gen2 Valvoline Synthetic 5w30. Purchased as Walmart in Feb2018 with a manufacture date of Jan 23 2018.

Code:
VOA - Valvoline Synthetic Dexos1 Gen2 5w30

 			VOA 	 
ALUMINUM 		1
CHROMIUM 		0			 
IRON 			1			 
COPPER		        0			 
LEAD 			0			 
TIN 			0			 
MOLYBDENUM 		66			 
NICKEL 			0			 
MANGANESE 		0			 
SILVER 			0			 
TITANIUM 		35			 
POTASSIUM 		0			 
BORON 		        247			 
SILICON 		10			 
SODIUM 		        1			 
CALCIUM 		1145			 
MAGNESIUM 		844			 
PHOSPHORUS 		781			 
ZINC 			826			 
BARIUM 		        0			 

SUS Viscosity @ 210°F	59.6			 
cSt Viscosity @ 100°C 	10.11			 
Flashpoint 		445			 
Fuel % 						 
Antifreeze % 					 
Water % 					 
Insolubles % 		0			 
TBN			7.5			 
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#4682485 - 03/02/18 04:36 PM Re: VOA Valvoline Synthetic Dexos1 Gen 2 5w30 [Re: smithph]
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Is this the Valvoline Advanced Synthetic or Modern Engine?

Interesting that they are using moly again due to sodium being complicit with LSPI. The titanium is a bit of a surprise.
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#4682492 - 03/02/18 04:38 PM Re: VOA Valvoline Synthetic Dexos1 Gen 2 5w30 [Re: smithph]
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Thanks so much.
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#4682541 - 03/02/18 05:24 PM Re: VOA Valvoline Synthetic Dexos1 Gen 2 5w30 [Re: smithph]
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Very, very much appreciated smithph.

I agree PimTac. The titanium and boron are very good to see. It looks like a 2000 ppm of calcium and magnesium is one of the additive packages that is now in use by a number of oil manufacturers. Like Mobil 1 was for a long, long time prior. Interesting.
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#4682558 - 03/02/18 05:37 PM Re: VOA Valvoline Synthetic Dexos1 Gen 2 5w30 [Re: bbhero]
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Originally Posted By: bbhero
Very, very much appreciated smithph.

I agree PimTac. The titanium and boron are very good to see. It looks like a 2000 ppm of calcium and magnesium is one of the additive packages that is now in use by a number of oil manufacturers. Like Mobil 1 was for a long, long time prior. Interesting.



Good point. It seems like we are going back in time minus the titanium. I like this formulation having always been a fan of big boron.
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#4682559 - 03/02/18 05:38 PM Re: VOA Valvoline Synthetic Dexos1 Gen 2 5w30 [Re: smithph]
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I have a feeling everything will begin to look like this (slight variations of course). LSPI has the industry by the jewels.

Thanks for posting OP
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#4682569 - 03/02/18 05:54 PM Re: VOA Valvoline Synthetic Dexos1 Gen 2 5w30 [Re: smithph]
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Wow !!
Ti = 35 ppm
Boron = 247 ppm
Mo = 66 ppm
I wasn't expecting that. The lack of Sodium I get, to reduce LSPI, but those other adds are a big change for Valvoline which has been traditionally slim on the metallic add pack.

Ca = 1145 ppm + Mg = 844 ppm for a TBN of 7.5 makes sense too. It will be interesting to see how the TBN holds up with a UOA at something like 7500 miles

For an ILSAC 30 grade, the zinc (826 ppm) is at the top end of what to expect, and the KV100 (10.1 cSt) is right in the middle.

Thank You Smithph, a very interesting VOA

The D1G1 and this D1G2 from Valvoline are two very different oils.
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#4682572 - 03/02/18 06:01 PM Re: VOA Valvoline Synthetic Dexos1 Gen 2 5w30 [Re: smithph]
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The bottle it came out of says "Valvoline Full Synthetic". The words "Modern Engine" do not appear on the bottle.

This went into a 2009 Saturn Vue with the NON-GDI 3.6LT. I plan to have a UOA done once the mileage minder says it is done since this is a somewhat new to me vehicle.
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#4682593 - 03/02/18 06:23 PM Re: VOA Valvoline Synthetic Dexos1 Gen 2 5w30 [Re: smithph]
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Originally Posted By: smithph
The bottle it came out of says "Valvoline Full Synthetic". The words "Modern Engine" do not appear on the bottle.

This went into a 2009 Saturn Vue with the NON-GDI 3.6LT. I plan to have a UOA done once the mileage minder says it is done since this is a somewhat new to me vehicle.




It sounds like the Advanced Synthetic. In any case it will serve you well.
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#4682599 - 03/02/18 06:26 PM Re: VOA Valvoline Synthetic Dexos1 Gen 2 5w30 [Re: smithph]
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It has to be the Advanced full synthetic. The people at Valvoline made a big change with their additive package. Which is an obvious change due to LSPI.
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#4682653 - 03/02/18 07:24 PM Re: VOA Valvoline Synthetic Dexos1 Gen 2 5w30 [Re: smithph]
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So the question I have is let's say you have an older motor let's say a Jeep 4.0 straight 6 what formula is better the old Valvoline synthetic with lots of sodium or this new formula?

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#4682656 - 03/02/18 07:28 PM Re: VOA Valvoline Synthetic Dexos1 Gen 2 5w30 [Re: wemay]
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Originally Posted By: wemay
I have a feeling everything will begin to look like this (slight variations of course). LSPI has the industry by the jewels.

Thanks for posting OP
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I think you are correct. If so the question of which brand is the best will be a vain exercise.
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#4682673 - 03/02/18 07:46 PM Re: VOA Valvoline Synthetic Dexos1 Gen 2 5w30 [Re: PimTac]
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One thing I would say though is that the basic base stocks are not known. And those could separate the better from better yet still smile
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#4682753 - 03/02/18 09:05 PM Re: VOA Valvoline Synthetic Dexos1 Gen 2 5w30 [Re: bbhero]
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Originally Posted By: bbhero
One thing I would say though is that the basic base stocks are not known. And those could separate the better from better yet still smile




True but that in itself becomes more of a mine as more than yours” argument without knowing if one is really better or not. We will need something to post about here.
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#4682759 - 03/02/18 09:15 PM Re: VOA Valvoline Synthetic Dexos1 Gen 2 5w30 [Re: PimTac]
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^^^^

Very true indeed. And funny as well my friend.
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