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When would you use a Fuel System Cleaner? #4681687
03/01/18 06:15 PM
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Chester County/Pa.
BAJA_05 Offline OP
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Hello everybody,

Question, if you had a new car and ran plain jane 87 octane in it at all times. When would you use or start using a fuel system cleaner?


Dale


2017 VW Jetta SE TSI 1.4L Turbo (hers)
M1 Euro 0W40 & FU (19K)
2008 Acura TL 3.2L PPPP 0W20 & FU (108K)
2005 Subaru Baja AWD 2.5L N/A 5spd.
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Re: When would you use a Fuel System Cleaner? [Re: BAJA_05] #4681691
03/01/18 06:21 PM
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Bud Offline
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If I always used top tier fuel I probably wouldn't use a cleaner. Otherwise I would use it yearly.


2016 Honda Pilot EX-L with NAVI.....Mobil 1 0w20 AFE and Honda OEM Filter
Re: When would you use a Fuel System Cleaner? [Re: BAJA_05] #4681702
03/01/18 06:26 PM
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Taiwan
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Taiwan
Whenever I bought petrol that had some in it

Re: When would you use a Fuel System Cleaner? [Re: BAJA_05] #4681704
03/01/18 06:29 PM
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I would use it from the very beginning to keep injectors clean. I also like to use an upper lubricant. Redline S-1 does both. Some use it every tank 1 ounce to every ten gallons. Every few months, or every oil change. BG 44K is great to use at oil change. I've used BG44 when I bought my Montero in 1994. I bought it by the case from BG directly through my employer. Never had to have the injector cleans.

It depends on how much money you want to spend and if you're buying Tier 1 fuel. I still use cleaners with Tier 1 fuel. A few months ago I bought Schaeffer's Soy lubricant (upper chamber lubricant) and I like it. After I changed my oil, I noticed a lot of carbon build up in the oil filter. Which means the cleaners are doing their job.

It's a personal decision. Some people don't use any cleaners at all. But, most people aren't OCD BITOG members! lol!


Respectfully,

Pajero!


Always remember "Planned obsolescence."

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Re: When would you use a Fuel System Cleaner? [Re: BAJA_05] #4681707
03/01/18 06:31 PM
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Yes, I "always" use a Top Tier gasoline so I only use Schaeffers Soy or Amsoil Cleaner about 3 times a year.


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Amsoil in all engines, transmissions and differentials

Re: When would you use a Fuel System Cleaner? [Re: BAJA_05] #4681708
03/01/18 06:34 PM
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I use the gas at the local convenience store. No idea what brand of gasoline it is. I use fuel treatment every 100k miles unless I forget. Just don't see it as part of my PM.


Without data you're just another person with an opinion. W. E. Deming

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Re: When would you use a Fuel System Cleaner? [Re: BAJA_05] #4681710
03/01/18 06:35 PM
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I've never used a fuel system cleaner and I use the nearest/cheapest fuel I can find. I suppose if I had a problem that I thought a fuel system cleaner could help, I'd try it, but haven't needed any in 45 years of driving.

Re: When would you use a Fuel System Cleaner? [Re: BAJA_05] #4681711
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I use TC-W3 every time I fill up.


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Re: When would you use a Fuel System Cleaner? [Re: BAJA_05] #4681712
03/01/18 06:36 PM
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I hope this isn't for the 2017 VW 1.4 TSI. Top tier only in that and not 87.


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Re: When would you use a Fuel System Cleaner? [Re: Trav] #4681720
03/01/18 06:43 PM
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I use it when i get a new to me vehicle. I guess i OCD a little about getting rid of the previous owners failings lol.

Other than that I only use cleaners if they go on clearance.


The boroscope videos i have seen so far have always pretty much debunked cleaners.

Re: When would you use a Fuel System Cleaner? [Re: BAJA_05] #4681734
03/01/18 07:04 PM
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Maybe once a year before an oil change.
Any engine will seem noticeably smoother with one of these adds in a fill, so they do have some effect.
I use a lot to TT fuel in my daily driver simply because there's a Valero that's usually cheap on my commute, but I don't worry much about using it since it's a GM thing that matters to only a few of their engines, just like dexos spec motor oil.
OTOH, I've used many engines for hundreds of thousands of miles with never a fuel add of any kind with no problems at all.


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Re: When would you use a Fuel System Cleaner? [Re: BAJA_05] #4681736
03/01/18 07:09 PM
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Maryland
walterjay Offline
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Twice a year

Re: When would you use a Fuel System Cleaner? [Re: BAJA_05] #4681759
03/01/18 07:29 PM
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ZZman Offline
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Usually when I get the itch to spend money and it comes to mind.


2003 Mercury Grand Marquis. PP HM 5w-30 and Fram Ultra
2008 Sebring Hardtop convertible. PP HM 5w-30 and Fram Ultra
2006 Kawasaki Vulcan 900 LT. Motul 7100 10w-40 and K&N
Re: When would you use a Fuel System Cleaner? [Re: BAJA_05] #4681760
03/01/18 07:30 PM
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Rand Online content
Rand  Online Content
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usually about every 3000miles or before an oil change.. or whenever you want really.


2019 Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk 2.0T
Re: When would you use a Fuel System Cleaner? [Re: BAJA_05] #4681803
03/01/18 08:18 PM
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California
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I believe Redline has the best one on the market, it's made with detergents, which offers far superior cleaning power imho

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