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#4681655 - 03/01/18 05:22 PM well [censored]!
gabriel9766 Offline

Registered: 05/10/15
Posts: 936
Loc: Missouri
Brought my new to me escape home last night. I drove the escape home, brother drove my taurus home, and dad drove his escape home. Well i get home before them, and as i get ready to get out of the car my brother calls and says the taurus wont move.... go down the street and sure enough wont engage into gear at all. all you hear is a loud wine from the bell housing. Torque converter went out ( very very common on the 03 taurses). Towed him home with my new to me escape and is now sitting on the street. Dont have the time to mess with it at work.

I was looking to get $1,500 for it as it was. Now im trying to get $500 for it. I got a quote for $600 to replace the torque converter from a shop tht family works for.... so idk what to do...
2015 Chevy Malibu 1LT DI 2.5L I4- PPPP 0w20 and a napa gold 7060 39,829K

2007 Ford Escape XLT FWD 3.0 V6 motorcraft 5w30 bulk and a motorcraft FL500s 109,944K

#4681659 - 03/01/18 05:35 PM Re: well [censored]! [Re: gabriel9766]
EdwardC Offline

Registered: 11/14/13
Posts: 1864
Loc: Chicago, IL
Look on the bright side, the Taurus broke after you got a replacement.

#4681664 - 03/01/18 05:43 PM Re: well [censored]! [Re: gabriel9766]
skyactiv Offline

Registered: 03/02/13
Posts: 4399
Loc: The Midwest
Fix the Taurus in an attempt to make it more valuable when you sell it, or try selling it for $500 or whatever the highest paying junk yard offers?
What you do with it is ultimately up to you.
Wife: 15' Audi A4 quattro 6 speed manual
Me: 13' VW GTI 3 door 6 speed manual

#4681671 - 03/01/18 05:55 PM Re: well [censored]! [Re: gabriel9766]
ruhroh Offline

Registered: 12/11/16
Posts: 110
Loc: NC
If you have a decent set of tools, a helper, a chain and some lumber to support the engine, jack(s) + stands... you can replace the torque converter yourself within a day - with a lot of cussing.

But on the off chance that it's not the torque converter stripped or the pump shaft splines, you might have to rebuild the AX4N.

Ford definitely cut some corners. It's even more disappointing that it's not a more 'impressive' failure. Ford saved maybe a few cents on the thinner splined washer welded in the torque converter that led to major failure later on.

Only you can weigh the risks/payoffs but personally, I'd just get rid of it.

#4681674 - 03/01/18 05:57 PM Re: well [censored]! [Re: gabriel9766]
Wolf359 Offline

Registered: 04/27/12
Posts: 4757
Loc: MA
That $600 is a decent price if it includes everything. Around here, it was almost $1000 to replace a torque converter, about $700 to pull the transmission another $100 for the torque converter and another $100 or so for fluid and other misc parts. So if $600 includes everything, that's not bad. Yeah the 2003+ was know for a weak spline in the converter.

#4681681 - 03/01/18 06:09 PM Re: well [censored]! [Re: gabriel9766]
Aero540T Offline

Registered: 01/08/18
Posts: 23
Loc: MI
Is that specific to 2003s? Iíve got an 02 and hadnít heard anything about it, wanting to know if itís sometbing I should be aware of
2004 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited 4.7L (wifeís) M1HM & PL
2002 Ford Taurus 24V M1HM & M1EP
2001 Dodge Ram 1500 5.9L 4x4 M1HM & M1EP
1993 Yamaha FZR 600

#4681685 - 03/01/18 06:14 PM Re: well [censored]! [Re: Aero540T]
Nick1994 Offline

Registered: 02/19/13
Posts: 10118
Loc: Phoenix, AZ
Originally Posted By: Aero540T
Is that specific to 2003s? Iíve got an 02 and hadnít heard anything about it, wanting to know if itís sometbing I should be aware of
Taurus transmissions suck
2015 Hyundai Sonata 2.4L 79k PU 5w30 & OEM
2000 Toyota Camry 2.2L 228k M1 AFE 0w30 & Wix
1996 Jeep Cherokee 4.0L 146k M1 HM 10w40 & Fram Ultra

#4681692 - 03/01/18 06:21 PM Re: well [censored]! [Re: gabriel9766]
BAJA_05 Offline

Registered: 02/04/18
Posts: 340
Loc: Berks County/Pa.
Take the $500.00 or best offer and be content with your newer Escape. I personally never had any true longevity out of a rebuilt transmission on an older vehicle if driven daily.

Edited by BAJA_05 (03/01/18 06:21 PM)
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#4681717 - 03/01/18 06:39 PM Re: well [censored]! [Re: gabriel9766]
Mr Nice Offline

Registered: 09/12/04
Posts: 21198
Loc: Orlando, FL
What is the general overall condition of the Taurus?

If its in good condition then repair, if its run down condition then sell for $500

#4681738 - 03/01/18 07:10 PM Re: well [censored]! [Re: gabriel9766]
JLTD Offline

Registered: 12/15/17
Posts: 682
Loc: US
Fix for $600 then sell for $1500?
Done discussing thick vs thin - too divisive. Will let UOAs do the talking.

His: 2015 4Runner SR5 1GR-FE 39k, Amsoil OE 5w20/Wix
Testing vs 5w30

Hers: 2008 Jeep Liberty 135k, Amsoil SS 5w30/Amsoil

#4681755 - 03/01/18 07:24 PM Re: well [censored]! [Re: JLTD]
dlundblad Online   happy

Registered: 09/30/13
Posts: 10045
Loc: Indiana
Originally Posted By: JLTD
Fix for $600 then sell for $1500?

~$400 profit maybe.. plus there's hassle involved. hide
03 Jeep WJ 4.0 199k Castrol Edge 10w40 HM Fram XG16
02 Volvo S60 2.4T 177k M1 0w40 Mahle OX149D
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#4681786 - 03/01/18 08:03 PM Re: well [censored]! [Re: gabriel9766]
SatinSilver Offline

Registered: 01/24/08
Posts: 10172
Loc: OH
I'd have it fixed and list it on CL for a lot more than $1500. Prob $2500 or so. Last week a guy was looking to buy a Taurus from a trans shop that wanted low $3000 or so. With no warranty on the trans. Tax refund time is coming up. Buyers will be flush with cash, just don't get too greedy. Keep a good car on the road.

#4681882 - 03/01/18 10:50 PM Re: well [censored]! [Re: Aero540T]
Wolf359 Offline

Registered: 04/27/12
Posts: 4757
Loc: MA
Originally Posted By: Aero540T
Is that specific to 2003s? Iíve got an 02 and hadnít heard anything about it, wanting to know if itís sometbing I should be aware of

It's 2003+. Earlier AX4Ns were better than the AX4S, although later they all had AX4Ns. They put in a weaker spline in the torque converter in 2003 and after.

#4681916 - 03/02/18 12:01 AM Re: well [censored]! [Re: gabriel9766]
Stevie Offline

Registered: 11/08/04
Posts: 182
Loc: Port Aransas, TX
We had a Taurus. The seats were very comfortable which was great for waiting for a wreaker every time it broke down. 3 transmissions, then the radiator or starter or alternator would go out. Every month it was something. This POS cost more then a Lamborghini with all the money we threw at it. One day my wife was driving down the highway and the hood flew open and mashed the windshield. I sold that POS to the junk yard. It tried to kill my wife.
My advice is have the car crushed before it tries to kill you. It is the Devil!

#4681986 - 03/02/18 06:30 AM Re: well [censored]! [Re: Stevie]
Kira Offline

Registered: 08/19/10
Posts: 5250
Loc: Champlain/Hudson Valley
Hard to follow that post!

Can a trannie rebuilder use better parts?

My Mom's 1991 Taurus GL was a nice car EXCEPT for the tranniepoo.
Since it was a Ford "Program Car" (a lease return from Budgit) and she was a low mileage driver (under 60,000 at the time of failure AND mailing of the notice), she qualified for a rebuilt unit. It too faultered with time.

Eff Ford. (Eff means FORGET-yeah, right!)

Seriously, if $600 gets it rollin' DO IT and sell it.

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