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#4681493 - 03/01/18 12:35 PM Water cooled BMW motorcycle oil
b_rubenstein Offline


Registered: 06/25/06
Posts: 55
Loc: Melbourne, FL
I recently bought a new to me 2017 R1200GS. The owners manual oil specification call for SAE 5W-40, API SL/JASO MA2, Additives (for instance, molybdenum based substances) are prohibited, because they would attack the coatings on engine components, BMW Motorrad recommends BMW Motorrad ADVANTEC Ultimate Oil. Since this was a dealer demo bike it's covered by the full BMW warranty. I would like to use an oil that complies with the specs, but don't know about the additive specifications. Any suggestions?

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#4681505 - 03/01/18 12:51 PM Re: Water cooled BMW motorcycle oil [Re: b_rubenstein]
Snagglefoot Offline


Registered: 12/31/17
Posts: 1729
Loc: Alberta
How about Mobil 1 Racing 4T Motorcyle oil. It is SAE 10W-40, API SH, JASO MA2 2011. I see it's SH and not SL, so a bit of a difference there and is 10W not 5W. 1100 Phosporous, 1200 zinc.


Edited by Snagglefoot (03/01/18 12:52 PM)

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#4681515 - 03/01/18 01:10 PM Re: Water cooled BMW motorcycle oil [Re: b_rubenstein]
Snagglefoot Offline


Registered: 12/31/17
Posts: 1729
Loc: Alberta
Had nothing to do for lunch so found some oil for you. Castrol Power 1 5W-40. Meets API SL and JASO MA2.
Available on Amazon.com.


https://www.amazon.com/Castrol-10W-40-Synthetic-Motorcycle-Bottle/dp/B008MISDH4



Edited by Snagglefoot (03/01/18 01:30 PM)

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#4681589 - 03/01/18 03:24 PM Re: Water cooled BMW motorcycle oil [Re: Snagglefoot]
alarmguy Offline


Registered: 07/10/12
Posts: 2152
Loc: South Carolina
^^^ Yup ^^^ good find ...


Just found another Made in Germany too,

Liqui Moy 4T - Click

Good luck with the 1200GS ... nice bike.


Edited by alarmguy (03/01/18 03:34 PM)
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#4681595 - 03/01/18 03:37 PM Re: Water cooled BMW motorcycle oil [Re: b_rubenstein]
bobbobtar Offline


Registered: 10/10/09
Posts: 31
Loc: Cloquet Mn.
I always used Shell Rotella T-6 5W-40 in my BMW RT 1200.

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#4681620 - 03/01/18 04:17 PM Re: Water cooled BMW motorcycle oil [Re: b_rubenstein]
Eddie Offline


Registered: 12/07/03
Posts: 9566
Loc: Florida, Cape Coral
New joy to ride. What is wrong with using BMW oil for a change or two until you contact other riders? Ed
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#4681626 - 03/01/18 04:39 PM Re: Water cooled BMW motorcycle oil [Re: b_rubenstein]
BigCahuna Offline


Registered: 09/29/09
Posts: 2141
Loc: Deep in the heart of Jersey
Does your BMW run the same oil in motor and transmission?. If so, I'm surprised that they recommend a 5/40 wt oil. I wonder what that would shear down to in 5k miles.,,,

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#4681672 - 03/01/18 05:55 PM Re: Water cooled BMW motorcycle oil [Re: b_rubenstein]
EdwardC Offline


Registered: 11/14/13
Posts: 1862
Loc: Chicago, IL
My guess is a shared sump due to the JASO MA2 requirement. I think a lot of new bikes spec a 30 weight, so maybe they expect the 5w40 to shear down and still be fine. Either way, I trust that the BMW knows that they're doing.

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#4681700 - 03/01/18 06:25 PM Re: Water cooled BMW motorcycle oil [Re: b_rubenstein]
Reddy45 Offline


Registered: 08/15/08
Posts: 2968
Loc: USA
Nice bike! If you are concerned about staying within warranty, then I'd run any of the top tier motorcycle oils manufactured by the Euro companies. Castrol 4T, Shell Helix, Motul, etc.

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#4681797 - 03/01/18 08:14 PM Re: Water cooled BMW motorcycle oil [Re: Snagglefoot]
Trav Offline


Registered: 11/20/06
Posts: 18885
Loc: MA, Mittelfranken.de
Originally Posted By: Snagglefoot
Had nothing to do for lunch so found some oil for you. Castrol Power 1 5W-40. Meets API SL and JASO MA2.
Available on Amazon.com.


https://www.amazon.com/Castrol-10W-40-Synthetic-Motorcycle-Bottle/dp/B008MISDH4



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#4681923 - 03/02/18 12:41 AM Re: Water cooled BMW motorcycle oil [Re: b_rubenstein]
02SE Offline


Registered: 12/30/05
Posts: 2728
Loc: The Canyons
Nice bike.

FWIW, I have yet to find an oil I like better than Motul 300V 4T. I run it in my S1000RR, and heavily modded 'Busa.

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#4681987 - 03/02/18 06:33 AM Re: Water cooled BMW motorcycle oil [Re: b_rubenstein]
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Could just be me but the way the part in italics is worded, I think what BMW is trying to say is no separate bottled additives, like an extra zddp or moly based additive you buy and add to the sump, are prohibited. Not the native additive package put into the motor oil during the blend process by Castrol, Mobil, Liqui Moly, etc. They're basically saying "no bottles of snake oil."

German bike, I'd put Liqui Moly oil (made in Germany) in it just for Good Karma (LoL). NAPA Auto Parts stores carry Liqui Moly.
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#4682001 - 03/02/18 06:59 AM Re: Water cooled BMW motorcycle oil [Re: LoneRanger]
alarmguy Offline


Registered: 07/10/12
Posts: 2152
Loc: South Carolina
Originally Posted By: LoneRanger
Could just be me but the way the part in italics is worded, I think what BMW is trying to say is no separate bottled additives, like an extra zddp or moly based additive you buy and add to the sump, are prohibited. Not the native additive package put into the motor oil during the blend process by Castrol, Mobil, Liqui Moly, etc. They're basically saying "no bottles of snake oil."

German bike, I'd put Liqui Moly oil (made in Germany) in it just for Good Karma (LoL). NAPA Auto Parts stores carry Liqui Moly.


Agree ^^^ Its not just you, I took it the same way.. Dont add additives or extras (aka snake oil)

Any SL/Jaso MA2 in 5/40 will do the job.


Edited by alarmguy (03/02/18 07:02 AM)
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#4682092 - 03/02/18 09:30 AM Re: Water cooled BMW motorcycle oil [Re: b_rubenstein]
b_rubenstein Offline


Registered: 06/25/06
Posts: 55
Loc: Melbourne, FL
Thanks all! I like the additive interpretation to mean, Don't use additives. I've been using Rotella T5 & T6 in my Honda and a Yamaha that I had. T5 (10W-30 in the Honda & 15W-40 in the Yam) gave smoother shifting than the T6. The BMW has clunkier gear box (engine and gearbox share the same oil), but the bike only has a little over 1,000 miles. It's good to know that someone here as been using T6 in this engine without issues. I'll probably also try some of the other oils mentioned above. At least the change intervals are 6k miles.

Now all I have to do is find a seat that's good for long distance touring...

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#4682152 - 03/02/18 10:24 AM Re: Water cooled BMW motorcycle oil [Re: b_rubenstein]
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Registered: 05/17/06
Posts: 3969
Loc: Central Wisconsin
Not up to date on BMW cycles but I was under the impression that
all BMW twins had a dry clutch and separate transmission.

True or no?
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