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'16-'17 VW Golf SportWagen? #4680413
02/28/18 09:53 AM
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Hello BITOGers,

Give me the goods and the bads about these.
And useful accessories
In AT (It is an AISIN?).
For the moment and for the estimated 7-8 years and 75kmiles of ownership I think it should be good.

It also has better visibility all around because of the lower door height (compared with the Prius v wagon, which has worse visibility than my Mazda5).
And 15" wheels. (compared with the current trend of 20"+)

The only thing holding me is the fact they are made in Mexico, compared with the Tennessee Pasat's.

But a wagon form suits my needs better right now.

Also how do you prevent the DI carbon? Techron every 2 filups? or the VW special gas additive?

And since this is BITOG, what oils beside Mobil1 0W40 or Castrol 0W40? Change at 10kmiles (factory specs) or 5kmiles for peace of mind?


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Re: '16-'17 VW Golf SportWagen? [Re: pandus13] #4680422
02/28/18 10:07 AM
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I can't think of any negatives. It's an awesome car.

FWD is an Aisin AT, AWD is a BW DSG.

The carbon build up "concern" is not really a big deal, especially if you plan on cutting it loose before 100k miles.


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Re: '16-'17 VW Golf SportWagen? [Re: pandus13] #4680427
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I had a '17 sportwagen 4motion (DSG trans, awd) for about 4,000 miles. I liked almost everything about it. I sold mine due to some driveshaft balance issue the dealer refused to address. The neat thing was I didn't lose any money because of the sale price (was about 21k).

Short of that major issue, not much bad to say. It handled well, good power, seats were very comfortable (heated seats). The soft touch steering wheel material was wearing kind of funny in spots early on. Dealer said the soft touch did that...

The infotainment is great, apple car play and android auto. Don't spring for a model with GPS. When I was looking it was offered but pretty unnecessary given the carplay and droid auto.

The cargo room was also terrific. Huge difference from the standard golf.


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Re: '16-'17 VW Golf SportWagen? [Re: rooflessVW] #4680476
02/28/18 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted By: rooflessVW
I can't think of any negatives. It's an awesome car.

FWD is an Aisin AT, AWD is a BW DSG.

The carbon build up "concern" is not really a big deal, especially if you plan on cutting it loose before 100k miles.

I wouldn't buy a car if I was to dump it before 100K miles. Why bother buying it in the first place...

Re: '16-'17 VW Golf SportWagen? [Re: Mr Nice] #4680483
02/28/18 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted By: Mr Nice
I wouldn't buy a car if I was to dump it before 100K miles. Why bother buying it in the first place...

Well fortunately you're not the one buying it.

OP said his plan was to keep it for 7-8 years and 75k miles, so...


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Re: '16-'17 VW Golf SportWagen? [Re: Mr Nice] #4680489
02/28/18 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted By: Mr Nice
Originally Posted By: rooflessVW
I can't think of any negatives. It's an awesome car.

FWD is an Aisin AT, AWD is a BW DSG.

The carbon build up "concern" is not really a big deal, especially if you plan on cutting it loose before 100k miles.

I wouldn't buy a car if I was to dump it before 100K miles. Why bother buying it in the first place...


OK, Then, Cash/Certified Funds or Loan?

P.S. My current 10 years old Yaris has 63,800 miles. It would be around 59k if not for couple trips. I think 75k/8 years miles is a good estimate for my situation. Also I wanted a Golf for probably close to 24 years.


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Re: '16-'17 VW Golf SportWagen? [Re: pandus13] #4680508
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ďOK, Then, Cash/Certified Funds or Loan?Ē


That is up to you.


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Re: '16-'17 VW Golf SportWagen? [Re: pandus13] #4680511
02/28/18 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted By: pandus13
Hello BITOGers,

Give me the goods and the bads about these.
And useful accessories
In AT (It is an AISIN?).
For the moment and for the estimated 7-8 years and 75kmiles of ownership I think it should be good.

It also has better visibility all around because of the lower door height (compared with the Prius v wagon, which has worse visibility than my Mazda5).
And 15" wheels. (compared with the current trend of 20"+)

The only thing holding me is the fact they are made in Mexico, compared with the Tennessee Pasat's.

But a wagon form suits my needs better right now.

Also how do you prevent the DI carbon? Techron every 2 filups? or the VW special gas additive?

And since this is BITOG, what oils beside Mobil1 0W40 or Castrol 0W40? Change at 10kmiles (factory specs) or 5kmiles for peace of mind?


Why is the fact that its made in Mexico a concern? confused
Just curious..

Re: '16-'17 VW Golf SportWagen? [Re: pandus13] #4680518
02/28/18 12:21 PM
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Not to change the subject but I find it nearly impossible to locate a regular Ďol Golf, not a GTI thatís in stock at the dealer. You can configure a Golf S with stick on the web site, just canít find one ( at least I canít ). Iíd take a base Golf with stick in a heart beat. Make it red with black interior....


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Re: '16-'17 VW Golf SportWagen? [Re: pandus13] #4680547
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Heard nothing but good things about them.

Kinda want one myself. Love wagons....


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Re: '16-'17 VW Golf SportWagen? [Re: knoas] #4680549
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Originally Posted By: knoas
Why is the fact that its made in Mexico a concern? confused
Just curious..

Don't laugh:
butterflies in my head:
-have been some reports (older cars) of problems. But in person the GSW it sounds and feel pretty solid.
-I would have wanted a german car made in Germany or US. I also understand the Mexico plant is VW's second in the world as size, so, again, butterflies in my head....


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Re: '16-'17 VW Golf SportWagen? [Re: double vanos] #4680553
02/28/18 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted By: double vanos
Not to change the subject but I find it nearly impossible to locate a regular Ďol Golf, not a GTI thatís in stock at the dealer. You can configure a Golf S with stick on the web site, just canít find one ( at least I canít ). Iíd take a base Golf with stick in a heart beat. Make it red with black interior....

Red and Manual (I'm not sure how many miles from your zipcode....)


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Re: '16-'17 VW Golf SportWagen? [Re: pandus13] #4680577
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Originally Posted By: pandus13
Originally Posted By: knoas
Why is the fact that its made in Mexico a concern? confused
Just curious..

Don't laugh:
butterflies in my head:
-have been some reports (older cars) of problems. But in person the GSW it sounds and feel pretty solid.
-I would have wanted a german car made in Germany or US. I also understand the Mexico plant is VW's second in the world as size, so, again, butterflies in my head....


I get the fear. It would be nice also if VWs were made only in Germany. But I guess freight costs would be rough. So far mechanically and otherwise my mexican GTI has held up.

Lately I don't take US made to mean any better. My Mustang was assembled here, and had some pretty sad quality control issues. My Nissan was also built here and the quality isn't something that stands out.


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Re: '16-'17 VW Golf SportWagen? [Re: pandus13] #4680579
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Modern assembly with robots and automation has changed the equation of assembly location. If the VW plant in Mexico has the quality control in place then it doesnít matter.


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Re: '16-'17 VW Golf SportWagen? [Re: HemiHawk] #4680580
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Originally Posted By: HemiHawk
Originally Posted By: pandus13
Originally Posted By: knoas
Why is the fact that its made in Mexico a concern? confused
Just curious..

Don't laugh:
butterflies in my head:
-have been some reports (older cars) of problems. But in person the GSW it sounds and feel pretty solid.
-I would have wanted a german car made in Germany or US. I also understand the Mexico plant is VW's second in the world as size, so, again, butterflies in my head....


I get the fear. It would be nice also if VWs were made only in Germany. But I guess freight costs would be rough. So far mechanically and otherwise my mexican GTI has held up.

Lately I don't take US made to mean any better. My Mustang was assembled here, and had some pretty sad quality control issues. My Nissan was also built here and the quality isn't something that stands out.


Thank you!
Your buying thread, Dareo's and Surfstar's GSW stick/manual threads also served as my research info also.


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