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WIX 57356XP and FRAM XG7317 Cut Open and Compared #4680139
02/28/18 12:15 AM
02/28/18 12:15 AM
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Each of these filters were used on a 2011 Honda CR-Z for 3,500-4,000 miles. The FRAM was removed early in order to change the car's oil cooler setup and the WIX was removed early to make sure any debris from a recent camshaft swap had been collected before this year's track events start. The FRAM saw about 160 miles at Road Atlanta and 260 miles at Barber Motorsports Park, while the WIX only saw six autocross runs.

I'm not here to say that one filter is better than the other, I just thought that it would be interesting to show the different construction techniques used on each filter to achieve the same ultimate goal.

The FRAM has 31 pleats and the WIX has 43.



Seam side of the WIX.



Opposite of the seam on the WIX.



The WIX has a single layer of fine synthetic media.



The bypass valve on the WIX is built into the top of the filter.



The backing mesh on the WIX is finer than on the FRAM.



Seam side on the FRAM.



Opposite of the seam on the FRAM.



The FRAM uses two layers of synthetic media, one of which is course and the other fine.



The FRAM uses a gasket material on the top of the filter where the spring is installed.



The FRAM has a completely different center tube design than the WIX.



Can't get much different on the base plates either.






The WIX had some adhesive on the base plate coming loose and starting to enter the filter.





The ADBV on the WIX is thinner and more flexible than the one used on the FRAM.



As many of you know, the FRAM has a bypass valve built into the leaf spring while the WIX uses a coil spring and a separate bypass valve.



The WIX is slightly smaller than the FRAM.



Re: WIX 57356XP and FRAM XG7317 Cut Open and Compared [Re: HX520W] #4680141
02/28/18 12:18 AM
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I'm a Wix fanboy, won't hide that...you can buy any Wix made filter and know it's quality. The FU is a good filter though, it's the rest of the line I find underwhelming.


2018 Challenger SRT
Re: WIX 57356XP and FRAM XG7317 Cut Open and Compared [Re: HX520W] #4680142
02/28/18 12:19 AM
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Love the side by side, thanks!
And, uhh, use the filters before cutting them smile


95 Cherokee 190K DELO 10W30,XG8
07 IS250 100K Napa 10w30,FULL
04 YZF-R1 19K DELO 15w40,XG7317
99 HD XL1200S 20K VR1 20w50,1515
14 RX450h 32k PP MIX,NAPAG
Re: WIX 57356XP and FRAM XG7317 Cut Open and Compared [Re: HX520W] #4680144
02/28/18 12:27 AM
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In terms of efficiency, there is a clear winner.

Thanks.


07 Lincoln Navigator M1 0w-40/FU
68 Charger R/T / Supercharged 440 VR1/DBL7349
07 Ram 3500 4x4 / Cummins 6.7 /DBL7349
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Re: WIX 57356XP and FRAM XG7317 Cut Open and Compared [Re: HX520W] #4680149
02/28/18 12:39 AM
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Good C&P. See any oil pressure difference at near redline between the filters (assuming you have a pressure gauge)?

Re: WIX 57356XP and FRAM XG7317 Cut Open and Compared [Re: ZeeOSix] #4680160
02/28/18 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
See any oil pressure difference at near redline between the filters (assuming you have a pressure gauge)?

Sorry, the car only has gauges for engine oil and CVTF temperature.

Re: WIX 57356XP and FRAM XG7317 Cut Open and Compared [Re: HX520W] #4680179
02/28/18 01:35 AM
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In terms of loose fiber ends there is also a pretty clear winner here. Don't know if it is an issue, what's it called, shedding? laugh

Re: WIX 57356XP and FRAM XG7317 Cut Open and Compared [Re: HX520W] #4680191
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Non fuzzy media next to the center tube is a better setup.

Re: WIX 57356XP and FRAM XG7317 Cut Open and Compared [Re: HX520W] #4680202
02/28/18 03:07 AM
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No, the media being fuzzy is way more important than the fact the filter works better.


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Re: WIX 57356XP and FRAM XG7317 Cut Open and Compared [Re: HX520W] #4680213
02/28/18 04:07 AM
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That spring valve is what kills buying Wix again for me.


She's the only sister-in-law I have. But she's not my favorite.
Re: WIX 57356XP and FRAM XG7317 Cut Open and Compared [Re: Triple_Se7en] #4680216
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Originally Posted By: Triple_Se7en
That spring valve is what kills buying Wix again for me.


You talking about the big coil spring that holds the guts together, or the bypass valve spring?

Re: WIX 57356XP and FRAM XG7317 Cut Open and Compared [Re: dishdude] #4680232
02/28/18 06:11 AM
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Thanks for the cut and post.


2015 Grand Caravan SXT Plus 5w-20 PPPP/Fram Ultra Filter
1997 Honda Civic CX 5w-30 Shell Conventional/Fram Ultra Filter
Re: WIX 57356XP and FRAM XG7317 Cut Open and Compared [Re: HX520W] #4680233
02/28/18 06:12 AM
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Fram XG7317 and Wix rock catcher cut open and compared


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TG8A | 2.5" lift | 148k miles

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Re: WIX 57356XP and FRAM XG7317 Cut Open and Compared [Re: Dyusik] #4680234
02/28/18 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted By: Dyusik
Love the side by side, thanks!
And, uhh, use the filters before cutting them smile


They are used. The Wix would still be white if it wasn't used.

Re: WIX 57356XP and FRAM XG7317 Cut Open and Compared [Re: HX520W] #4680279
02/28/18 07:25 AM
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I've used Napa Platinum's for 120k miles on my Honda Accord. I have some older MicroGreen filters I'm using now.

I'll never use a Fram Ultra. EVER. Why? Mostly because of the attitude of the people on here that use them. For some reason, it's sickening.


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