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#4678211 - 02/25/18 09:53 PM Ruger 10/22 or Marlin 60
gman2304 Offline

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The first gun I ever shot was a single shot 22 rifle. I’m considering a Ruger or Marlin semi automatic just for plinking. Probably a scope later on and do some target shooting. These two are pretty much inexpensive basic little auto rifles but sure are fun to shoot. Any thoughts or opinions on these or other models or brands is appreciated.

#4678229 - 02/25/18 10:09 PM Re: Ruger 10/22 or Marlin 60 [Re: gman2304]
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Ruger is the way to go. If you want to change anything there are lots of after market parts for the Ruger and it will have a lot better resale value.
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#4678231 - 02/25/18 10:13 PM Re: Ruger 10/22 or Marlin 60 [Re: gman2304]
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I would suggest a 10/22 they work and they last and last. have had one since 1978 and it has been well used! Rugers warranty is probably the best in the industry and they are simple to work on and there are all the aftermarket parts available you could ever dream of if that is the path you want to go.
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#4678258 - 02/25/18 10:45 PM Re: Ruger 10/22 or Marlin 60 [Re: gman2304]
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New? Ruger.

#4678281 - 02/25/18 11:36 PM Re: Ruger 10/22 or Marlin 60 [Re: gman2304]
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I like my model 60. Very very accurate.

#4678304 - 02/26/18 12:17 AM Re: Ruger 10/22 or Marlin 60 [Re: gman2304]
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Registered: 12/31/16
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The older model 60's are far and away better.
The new ones just seem so cheaply made.

If you can be OK with used, get an older Marlin 60.

if you want a new one - 10/22
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#4678342 - 02/26/18 04:16 AM Re: Ruger 10/22 or Marlin 60 [Re: gman2304]
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I have 3 Marlin Model 60's. One is a 80's vintage. The other 2 are a 50th Anniversary Edition, and a Stainless Steel model with a grey laminated stock, that were purchased in the last 5 years. All 3 are of excellent quality and workmanship. I also have a 70's vintage Ruger 10-22. All 3 Model 60's are FAR more accurate than the Ruger. My Ruger is box stock. However the Ruger has more aftermarket parts available, but the Model 60's are much more accurate as they shoot from the box. So they don't need new barrels, triggers, and everything else before they shoot good.

#4678373 - 02/26/18 05:34 AM Re: Ruger 10/22 or Marlin 60 [Re: gman2304]
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The 60 tends to be very accurate, much more than a 10/22, however I'd go for the 10/22. They can be a lot of fun, and there are plenty of aftermarket goodies for them.
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#4678390 - 02/26/18 05:52 AM Re: Ruger 10/22 or Marlin 60 [Re: gman2304]
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Out of those two, probably the model 60 as long as I could give it a look over.

If you’re not committed to semi autos and willing to spend a little more, look at CZ.
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#4678402 - 02/26/18 06:20 AM Re: Ruger 10/22 or Marlin 60 [Re: gman2304]
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I'd pick the Ruger, but the Marlin and heck, even the Remington 597 shoots more accurate in my experience than a 10/22. But the 10/22
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#4678426 - 02/26/18 07:01 AM Re: Ruger 10/22 or Marlin 60 [Re: gman2304]
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Registered: 02/26/11
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Loc: N. Georgia Mtns
I bought both of my sons a Marlin 60 for Christmas this year. I sold one of my hand guns and bought myself a 10/22. Already had a Marlin XT-22 in the safe. Me and my oldest son sighted in the scopes we put on ours. And in my experience in doing this, I agree that the Model 60 was more accurate at the same distance (50 yards). I then compared my older XT-22 to my new 10/22. The XT-22 seemed to get a little better grouping than the 10/22 but both did a solid job. I don't regret my choices and my son enjoys his new toy. I'll be giving my youngest son his Model 60 next week since we couldn't see him for Christmas.

Edited by Sierra048 (02/26/18 07:02 AM)
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#4678496 - 02/26/18 08:55 AM Re: Ruger 10/22 or Marlin 60 [Re: gman2304]
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The 10/22 is easier to use on the range with its removable/replaceable magazine.
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#4678574 - 02/26/18 10:22 AM Re: Ruger 10/22 or Marlin 60 [Re: CT8]
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Registered: 01/14/11
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Loc: Cottonwood Az
Originally Posted By: CT8
Rugers warranty is probably the best in the industry

The funny thing is Ruger doesn't have a written warranty. They're more than generous fixing problems but nothing is in writing.

Marlin for a rifle you just want to shoot and possibly more accurate in general. Ruger if modifications are something in the future.
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#4678738 - 02/26/18 01:37 PM Re: Ruger 10/22 or Marlin 60 [Re: gman2304]
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If you buy the Marlin 60 give it a very good look over. I bought one a while back and after I got home noticed the barrle rifling was messed up pretty badly. Here's the thread about it - LINK

Since the photos no longer show in that thread due to the Photobucket debacle, here's a couple of photos below. I took that rifle back for a refund and got another Marlin 60, but not in stainless steel. The barrel rifling was good on the 2nd one, and I inspected it well before purchase.

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#4678935 - 02/26/18 04:38 PM Re: Ruger 10/22 or Marlin 60 [Re: gman2304]
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