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#4678203 - 02/25/18 09:46 PM Wix to ACDelco
dogememe Offline


Registered: 04/15/17
Posts: 612
Loc: SF BAY AREA, CA
I know, I know, it probably doesn't matter, but any reason to or not to start using ACDelco filters instead of Wix filters on my two vehicles? OCIs are usually 4-8K, and I always use full synthetic.
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#4678234 - 02/25/18 10:16 PM Re: Wix to ACDelco [Re: dogememe]
CT8 Offline


Registered: 10/09/14
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Sometimes maybe.
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#4678250 - 02/25/18 10:33 PM Re: Wix to ACDelco [Re: dogememe]
barkingspider Offline


Registered: 12/22/13
Posts: 2049
Loc: socal
If they were the same price, I would choose wix. I get the delco filter a lot cheaper than wix
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#4678278 - 02/25/18 11:19 PM Re: Wix to ACDelco [Re: dogememe]
das_peikko Online   content


Registered: 01/01/18
Posts: 519
Loc: San Antonio, TX
I'm sold on the Wix XP. I know it's not a popular filter, but the construction is solid.

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#4678308 - 02/26/18 12:20 AM Re: Wix to ACDelco [Re: dogememe]
Linctex Offline


Registered: 12/31/16
Posts: 6148
Loc: Waco, TX
Wix are very well made.

If the Delco has a plastic cage inside the center, it's an E-core filter. I do not like those.
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#4678349 - 02/26/18 04:58 AM Re: Wix to ACDelco [Re: das_peikko]
Richie Offline


Registered: 06/10/04
Posts: 285
Loc: Valencia, CA
Same here

Originally Posted By: das_peikko
I'm sold on the Wix XP. I know it's not a popular filter, but the construction is solid.

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#4678443 - 02/26/18 07:35 AM Re: Wix to ACDelco [Re: das_peikko]
Trav Offline


Registered: 11/20/06
Posts: 18895
Loc: MA, Mittelfranken.de
Originally Posted By: das_peikko
I'm sold on the Wix XP. I know it's not a popular filter, but the construction is solid.


You Heretic! I hear the 20 micron FU gang and its leader are mobilizing now, take cover. LOL
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#4678463 - 02/26/18 08:10 AM Re: Wix to ACDelco [Re: das_peikko]
bullwinkle Offline


Registered: 10/09/04
Posts: 7671
Loc: Cincinnati, OH, USA
Originally Posted By: das_peikko
I'm sold on the Wix XP. I know it's not a popular filter, but the construction is solid.
As long as your AIR filtration system is good-don't want those nasty sub-20 micron dust particles circulating through your bearings over & over! horse
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#4678646 - 02/26/18 11:34 AM Re: Wix to ACDelco [Re: dogememe]
Bud Offline


Registered: 06/04/02
Posts: 1721
Loc: Texas
I would stay with Wix so you don't have to make changes in your signature line. thumbsup
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#4680019 - 02/27/18 08:42 PM Re: Wix to ACDelco [Re: Linctex]
dogememe Offline


Registered: 04/15/17
Posts: 612
Loc: SF BAY AREA, CA
Originally Posted By: Linctex
Wix are very well made.

If the Delco has a plastic cage inside the center, it's an E-core filter. I do not like those.


ok so i bought the delco filter, half the price of the wix. it is an e-core, as all acdelcos are these days.
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#4680214 - 02/28/18 03:10 AM Re: Wix to ACDelco [Re: dogememe]
Triple_Se7en Offline


Registered: 12/04/04
Posts: 8778
Loc: 1/2 hr. north of Detroit
I prefer the Fram Extra Guard over the AC Delco, which I've used in the past for over 30 years.

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#4681257 - 03/01/18 06:45 AM Re: Wix to ACDelco [Re: dogememe]
Patman Offline



Registered: 05/27/02
Posts: 20346
Loc: Oakville, Ontario
Originally Posted By: dogememe

ok so i bought the delco filter, half the price of the wix. it is an e-core, as all acdelcos are these days.


Not all AC Delcos are E Cores. I know the PF64 filter that I use on my Corvette is not an e core design.
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#4681504 - 03/01/18 12:50 PM Re: Wix to ACDelco [Re: dogememe]
ZeeOSix Offline


Registered: 07/22/10
Posts: 17786
Loc: PNW
Gives a good look at an eCore center tube.


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#4681543 - 03/01/18 02:12 PM Re: Wix to ACDelco [Re: dogememe]
WobblyElvis Offline


Registered: 09/23/14
Posts: 1346
Loc: Toronto Canada
I lifted info about E-cores from a GM truck forum a few years ago.


The PF48E primary performance improvement relates to the relief valve design. The PF48E has a compression spring loaded nylon poppet that outperforms the current valve design.

Other benefits:
•Element integrity (collapse strength) is increased by 25%. This is because the nylon cores are perfectly round.
•Filter media, which is unchanged, is no longer potted in adhesive which blocks filtration area at each end.
•Filtration performance (efficiency and capacity) are both unchanged.
•The filter shell configuration is unchanged. Existing cap wrenches continue to fit.
•Hydrostatic burst and impulse fatigue performance are both unchanged.
•Relief valve performance is much improved and statistically more stable.
•Hot oil durability is improved by elimination of adhesive.
•Cold weather performance (-30 C) with dexos 1 oil is excellent.
•Improved level of robustness to water accumulation.
•Nitrile material used in the sealing gasket and the anti-drainback valve is unchanged.
•PF48E filters meet performance specifications as defined by GM Powertrain.
•PF48E filters will be used in OE production in the near future.

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#4681600 - 03/01/18 03:40 PM Re: Wix to ACDelco [Re: dogememe]
WellOiled Offline


Registered: 10/03/15
Posts: 1358
Loc: Houston, Texas
The photo below shows the improvement to the cage.


ACDelco PF1250-15125ES-Old vs New style cage
Side by side old cage on the left with new cage on the right. The new cage has 8 verticle supports and 7 rings to support the media. This design change reduces the window size and the vertical supports can also lend support to the media. A design with reduced risk of media blowout. I prefer this design over the old one.
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