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Wix to ACDelco #4678203
02/25/18 10:46 PM
02/25/18 10:46 PM
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SF BAY AREA, CA
dogememe Offline OP
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I know, I know, it probably doesn't matter, but any reason to or not to start using ACDelco filters instead of Wix filters on my two vehicles? OCIs are usually 4-8K, and I always use full synthetic.


2007 Crown Vic P71 4.6 ~126K Miles, Royal Purple HPS 5W-30, Royal Purple Filter, Daily Driver, 5K OCIs.
2010 Escape FWD 2.5 ~84K Miles, Castrol Edge EP 5W-30, Wix Filter, Rented on Turo, 10-15K OCIs.
Re: Wix to ACDelco [Re: dogememe] #4678234
02/25/18 11:16 PM
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Sometimes maybe.


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Re: Wix to ACDelco [Re: dogememe] #4678250
02/25/18 11:33 PM
02/25/18 11:33 PM
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If they were the same price, I would choose wix. I get the delco filter a lot cheaper than wix


06 Cadillac Escalade Ext
17 Cadillac ATS (wife)
05 Toyota Camry (daughter)
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Re: Wix to ACDelco [Re: dogememe] #4678278
02/26/18 12:19 AM
02/26/18 12:19 AM
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San Antonio, TX
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I'm sold on the Wix XP. I know it's not a popular filter, but the construction is solid.

Re: Wix to ACDelco [Re: dogememe] #4678308
02/26/18 01:20 AM
02/26/18 01:20 AM
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Wix are very well made.

If the Delco has a plastic cage inside the center, it's an E-core filter. I do not like those.


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Re: Wix to ACDelco [Re: das_peikko] #4678349
02/26/18 05:58 AM
02/26/18 05:58 AM
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Valencia, CA
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Same here

Originally Posted By: das_peikko
I'm sold on the Wix XP. I know it's not a popular filter, but the construction is solid.

Re: Wix to ACDelco [Re: das_peikko] #4678443
02/26/18 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted By: das_peikko
I'm sold on the Wix XP. I know it's not a popular filter, but the construction is solid.


You Heretic! I hear the 20 micron FU gang and its leader are mobilizing now, take cover. LOL


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Re: Wix to ACDelco [Re: das_peikko] #4678463
02/26/18 09:10 AM
02/26/18 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted By: das_peikko
I'm sold on the Wix XP. I know it's not a popular filter, but the construction is solid.
As long as your AIR filtration system is good-don't want those nasty sub-20 micron dust particles circulating through your bearings over & over! horse


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Re: Wix to ACDelco [Re: dogememe] #4678646
02/26/18 12:34 PM
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I would stay with Wix so you don't have to make changes in your signature line. thumbsup


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Re: Wix to ACDelco [Re: Linctex] #4680019
02/27/18 09:42 PM
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SF BAY AREA, CA
dogememe Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: Linctex
Wix are very well made.

If the Delco has a plastic cage inside the center, it's an E-core filter. I do not like those.


ok so i bought the delco filter, half the price of the wix. it is an e-core, as all acdelcos are these days.


2007 Crown Vic P71 4.6 ~126K Miles, Royal Purple HPS 5W-30, Royal Purple Filter, Daily Driver, 5K OCIs.
2010 Escape FWD 2.5 ~84K Miles, Castrol Edge EP 5W-30, Wix Filter, Rented on Turo, 10-15K OCIs.
Re: Wix to ACDelco [Re: dogememe] #4680214
02/28/18 04:10 AM
02/28/18 04:10 AM
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1/2 hr N.E. of Detroit
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I prefer the Fram Extra Guard over the AC Delco, which I've used in the past for over 30 years.


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Re: Wix to ACDelco [Re: dogememe] #4681257
03/01/18 07:45 AM
03/01/18 07:45 AM
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Oakville, Ontario
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Originally Posted By: dogememe

ok so i bought the delco filter, half the price of the wix. it is an e-core, as all acdelcos are these days.


Not all AC Delcos are E Cores. I know the PF64 filter that I use on my Corvette is not an e core design.


2018 Corvette (M1 5w30 ESP Formula & Fram Ultra)
2006 Civic EX Coupe (PUP 5w20 & Fram Ultra)
2010 BMW 328i X-Drive (GC 0w40 & Fram Ultra)

Re: Wix to ACDelco [Re: dogememe] #4681504
03/01/18 01:50 PM
03/01/18 01:50 PM
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Gives a good look at an eCore center tube.


Re: Wix to ACDelco [Re: dogememe] #4681543
03/01/18 03:12 PM
03/01/18 03:12 PM
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Toronto Canada
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I lifted info about E-cores from a GM truck forum a few years ago.


The PF48E primary performance improvement relates to the relief valve design. The PF48E has a compression spring loaded nylon poppet that outperforms the current valve design.

Other benefits:
•Element integrity (collapse strength) is increased by 25%. This is because the nylon cores are perfectly round.
•Filter media, which is unchanged, is no longer potted in adhesive which blocks filtration area at each end.
•Filtration performance (efficiency and capacity) are both unchanged.
•The filter shell configuration is unchanged. Existing cap wrenches continue to fit.
•Hydrostatic burst and impulse fatigue performance are both unchanged.
•Relief valve performance is much improved and statistically more stable.
•Hot oil durability is improved by elimination of adhesive.
•Cold weather performance (-30 C) with dexos 1 oil is excellent.
•Improved level of robustness to water accumulation.
•Nitrile material used in the sealing gasket and the anti-drainback valve is unchanged.
•PF48E filters meet performance specifications as defined by GM Powertrain.
•PF48E filters will be used in OE production in the near future.

Re: Wix to ACDelco [Re: dogememe] #4681600
03/01/18 04:40 PM
03/01/18 04:40 PM
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The photo below shows the improvement to the cage.


ACDelco PF1250-15125ES-Old vs New style cage
Side by side old cage on the left with new cage on the right. The new cage has 8 verticle supports and 7 rings to support the media. This design change reduces the window size and the vertical supports can also lend support to the media. A design with reduced risk of media blowout. I prefer this design over the old one.


2004 Ford Ranger 4.0L V6
Valvoline Advanced Full Synthetic 5W30 + Fram Tough Guard
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