0/20 HM vehicles 250k

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i used to own a 04 camry before it got rear ended. it had over 300k on the clock. it always ran 5/30 10/30 10/40 15/40. is there anyone here that has a vehicle over 250k that has always had 0/20 in it? i dont see a thin oil and engines lasting 500k. as the engine wears, whats going to provide extra film in the cylinder walls? when you start looking around overseas, the exact same engine used in the same car over there, they run a higher grade oil, and the manual states 0/20 for best mpg, but we really want you to run a 30 or 40wt you can also go to M1 and it will tell you. google m1 uk, enter vehicle, and engine, you'll get the weight they use there. i think the European cars use a higher weight oil for a reason, its better for protection, especially constant high speed driving
 
Just earlier today in multiple threads there were some guys saying Toyotas don't last 300k miles because they only take 1 kind of oil and that only Ford and Chevy trucks can last to that mileage because they can take any oil. Lo and behold, this guy's Camry was on lots of oils and also lasted that long.b
 
If 0w-20 oils don't burn and are shear stable and minimize and do not accelerate deposits, try some 0w-20. I know I've had higher viscosity oil burn but I am using a shear stable 0w-20 right now in the same severe climate and these 0w-20s simply do not burn but now does it minimize engine deposits especially on the intake valves, I won't know but you should check that these things are not happening when you choose your oil!!!
 
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what i find interesting, the exact same engine, the mfg suggest different weights, ill switch to GC on the next change, more than likely 0/40, this car is run hard, if my mpg goes from 30 to 28, you wont even notice
ford said in there trucks now to switch to 5/30 and dropped the 5/20, dodge ram diesel now goes to rotella t6 5w/40 instead of a 10/30, x16 and x20 are only for mpg imho
 
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Originally Posted By: Bullwinkle007
what i find interesting, the exact same engine, the mfg suggest different weights, ill switch to GC on the next change, more than likely 0/40, this car is run hard, if my mpg goes from 30 to 28, you wont even notice
ford said in there trucks now to switch to 5/30 and dropped the 5/20, dodge ram diesel now goes to rotella t6 5w/40 instead of a 10/30, x16 and x20 are only for mpg imho
More likey from 30 to 29.97.
 
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
I think tig1 has a 200K plus Ford using 0W20.
Yeah but his engine's pistons are so loose, it's like playing pool with a rope!

I'm joking
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Originally Posted By: Nick1994
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
I think tig1 has a 200K plus Ford using 0W20.
Yeah but his engine's pistons are so loose, it's like playing pool with a rope!

I'm joking
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Time for some 20W50!!
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I maintain my neighbors 2010 Camry and it's doing just fine at 170,000 miles on 0W-20 and 5,000 mile intervals. And to the horror of some it also uses Toyota OEM oil filters.

This is a timing chain engine so there is potential for high wear in those areas. This particular car has not had any of the intake cam VVT issues that are addressed in a Toyota service bulletin.

I'll continue with 0W-20 until the vehicle starts to consume oil and then I will try 5W-30 HM.
 
I used to also be skeptical of 0W-20 but if i had a car that spec'd it i would use it without worries really.
Given that i don't like modern cars though it's unlikely i'll ever buy 0W-20.
In fact i have never in my life bough an oil thinner than 10W-40
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I've only owned 70s, 80s, 90s Fords, Opels and Peuegots that all spec'd 10W-40 or thicker.
 
Originally Posted By: LEADED
Well maybe MOBIL need an Extended Hi Milage PCMO to Quiet down & remove IRON ,from their other products .


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Fsskier, a member here used M1 0-20 in his mid 1990s Escort and put 300K on his engine that called for 5-30. His engine ran great up to when he sold it. This is a troll thread as we have seen, and no evidence that 20wt oils show higher wear metals than any other wt oils.
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I understand what you’re asking but it might be an early question because it would take most people 10 to 20 years to rack up 250,000 miles on a vehicle. An accompanying question might be, when did 0-20 start to get specified? I first noticed Ford going to 5-20 in 2005 and it may have been earlier. Which auto makers gave the OK for 0W-20 besides Toyota and when did that occur?
 
Originally Posted By: Snagglefoot
I understand what you’re asking but it might be an early question because it would take most people 10 to 20 years to rack up 250,000 miles on a vehicle. An accompanying question might be, when did 0-20 start to get specified? I first noticed Ford going to 5-20 in 2005 and it may have been earlier. Which auto makers gave the OK for 0W-20 besides Toyota and when did that occur?


A friend has a 2014 Silverado with a V8 and it calls for 0-20. His truck has 100K and he tows a large boat with it. He has used M1 0-20 from the start and his engine performs very well.
 
As long as hot idle oil pressure stays in specs, and the engine bearing tolerances are designed for it (and STAY THAT WAY), it'll be fine. Otherwise, bumping up a grade will be necessary, like in my Jeep 4.0, that really doesn't like 10W30 in the summer anymore.
 
I have had first hand experience with a bunch of vehicles that exhibited consumption when run non-stop on 20 grades (Hyundai, Ford, Subaru, KIA, Honda) some surprisingly early in life. When I was young new vehicles just didn't use oil at all but they sure do nowadays. Others here have had vehicles that have run 20 grades extensively with no consumption though. And I have one also, a Focus that is up in miles but uses no oil, had 5w20 till at least 114k when I took it over.

Since I am convinced 20 grades are CAFE driven and offer little to no advantages to an actual owner anyway my cars get at least 30's.
 
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