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0/20 HM vehicles 250k #4678194
02/25/18 10:36 PM
02/25/18 10:36 PM
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Bullwinkle007 Offline OP
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i used to own a 04 camry before it got rear ended. it had over 300k on the clock. it always ran 5/30 10/30 10/40 15/40. is there anyone here that has a vehicle over 250k that has always had 0/20 in it? i dont see a thin oil and engines lasting 500k. as the engine wears, whats going to provide extra film in the cylinder walls? when you start looking around overseas, the exact same engine used in the same car over there, they run a higher grade oil, and the manual states 0/20 for best mpg, but we really want you to run a 30 or 40wt you can also go to M1 and it will tell you. google m1 uk, enter vehicle, and engine, you'll get the weight they use there. i think the European cars use a higher weight oil for a reason, its better for protection, especially constant high speed driving

Re: 0/20 HM vehicles 250k [Re: Bullwinkle007] #4678214
02/25/18 10:53 PM
02/25/18 10:53 PM
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Just earlier today in multiple threads there were some guys saying Toyotas don't last 300k miles because they only take 1 kind of oil and that only Ford and Chevy trucks can last to that mileage because they can take any oil. Lo and behold, this guy's Camry was on lots of oils and also lasted that long.b


Always Mobil 1
2014 1.6L Nissan Versa Sedan, 5 spd, 5k OCI.
2011 3.5L Chevrolet Impala, Automatic, 5k OCI.
Re: 0/20 HM vehicles 250k [Re: Bullwinkle007] #4678220
02/25/18 10:56 PM
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If 0w-20 oils don't burn and are shear stable and minimize and do not accelerate deposits, try some 0w-20. I know I've had higher viscosity oil burn but I am using a shear stable 0w-20 right now in the same severe climate and these 0w-20s simply do not burn but now does it minimize engine deposits especially on the intake valves, I won't know but you should check that these things are not happening when you choose your oil!!!

Last edited by HondaBroMike; 02/25/18 11:01 PM.


Re: 0/20 HM vehicles 250k [Re: Bullwinkle007] #4678230
02/25/18 11:12 PM
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Bullwinkle007 Offline OP
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what i find interesting, the exact same engine, the mfg suggest different weights, ill switch to GC on the next change, more than likely 0/40, this car is run hard, if my mpg goes from 30 to 28, you wont even notice
ford said in there trucks now to switch to 5/30 and dropped the 5/20, dodge ram diesel now goes to rotella t6 5w/40 instead of a 10/30, x16 and x20 are only for mpg imho

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Re: 0/20 HM vehicles 250k [Re: Bullwinkle007] #4678240
02/25/18 11:21 PM
02/25/18 11:21 PM
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Canyon County Idaho
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Originally Posted By: Bullwinkle007
what i find interesting, the exact same engine, the mfg suggest different weights, ill switch to GC on the next change, more than likely 0/40, this car is run hard, if my mpg goes from 30 to 28, you wont even notice
ford said in there trucks now to switch to 5/30 and dropped the 5/20, dodge ram diesel now goes to rotella t6 5w/40 instead of a 10/30, x16 and x20 are only for mpg imho
More likey from 30 to 29.97.


2015 F150 2.7
2018 F350 6.2
Re: 0/20 HM vehicles 250k [Re: Bullwinkle007] #4678262
02/25/18 11:48 PM
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I think tig1 has a 200K plus Ford using 0W20.


1996 Nissan 300ZX 5-speed,Arctic Pearl(#175 of 300)
Quaker State Ultimate Durability 10W30
2012 Honda Accord Coupe EX-L 2.4,auto,San Marino Red
Pennzoil Platinum HM 10W30

Re: 0/20 HM vehicles 250k [Re: aquariuscsm] #4678267
02/25/18 11:55 PM
02/25/18 11:55 PM
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Phoenix, AZ
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Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
I think tig1 has a 200K plus Ford using 0W20.
Yeah but his engine's pistons are so loose, it's like playing pool with a rope!

I'm joking crackmeup


2015 Hyundai Sonata 2.4L 93k STP Synthetic HM 10w30 & Wix
2000 Toyota Camry 2.2L 233k Mobil Super HM 10w40 & Fram Ultra
1996 Jeep Cherokee 4.0L 148k Mobil 1 HM 10w40 & Fram Ultra
Re: 0/20 HM vehicles 250k [Re: Nick1994] #4678274
02/26/18 12:08 AM
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Dallas,Tx USA
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Originally Posted By: Nick1994
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
I think tig1 has a 200K plus Ford using 0W20.
Yeah but his engine's pistons are so loose, it's like playing pool with a rope!

I'm joking crackmeup


Time for some 20W50!! drive


1996 Nissan 300ZX 5-speed,Arctic Pearl(#175 of 300)
Quaker State Ultimate Durability 10W30
2012 Honda Accord Coupe EX-L 2.4,auto,San Marino Red
Pennzoil Platinum HM 10W30

Re: 0/20 HM vehicles 250k [Re: Bullwinkle007] #4678287
02/26/18 12:53 AM
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CA
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I have 164k on my Prius, all oil changes except for two, were using 0W20.


2011 Toyota Prius 1.8L - 187K - Idemitsu ZEPRO Adv. Moly 0W-20
2007 Honda Accord 2.4 - 135K - Mobil 1 EP HM 5W-30
Re: 0/20 HM vehicles 250k [Re: Bullwinkle007] #4678334
02/26/18 04:04 AM
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Southeastern USA
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I maintain my neighbors 2010 Camry and it's doing just fine at 170,000 miles on 0W-20 and 5,000 mile intervals. And to the horror of some it also uses Toyota OEM oil filters.

This is a timing chain engine so there is potential for high wear in those areas. This particular car has not had any of the intake cam VVT issues that are addressed in a Toyota service bulletin.

I'll continue with 0W-20 until the vehicle starts to consume oil and then I will try 5W-30 HM.

Re: 0/20 HM vehicles 250k [Re: Bullwinkle007] #4678338
02/26/18 04:43 AM
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I used to also be skeptical of 0W-20 but if i had a car that spec'd it i would use it without worries really.
Given that i don't like modern cars though it's unlikely i'll ever buy 0W-20.
In fact i have never in my life bough an oil thinner than 10W-40 smile
I've only owned 70s, 80s, 90s Fords, Opels and Peuegots that all spec'd 10W-40 or thicker.


1975 Ford Capri II Ghia 3000 V6, - Shell Helix HX3 20W-50 w/ 20% Rimula R4X 15W-40 HDEO.
1988 Ford Escort XR3i Cabrio, - Shell Rimula R4X 15W-40, w/ 30% Helix 3 20W-50.


Re: 0/20 HM vehicles 250k [Re: FordCapriDriver] #4678354
02/26/18 06:06 AM
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MICHIGAN USA
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Well maybe MOBIL need an Extended Hi Milage PCMO to Quiet down & remove IRON ,from their other products .

Re: 0/20 HM vehicles 250k [Re: LEADED] #4678361
02/26/18 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted By: LEADED
Well maybe MOBIL need an Extended Hi Milage PCMO to Quiet down & remove IRON ,from their other products .


See parrots

Re: 0/20 HM vehicles 250k [Re: Bullwinkle007] #4678388
02/26/18 06:51 AM
02/26/18 06:51 AM
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0W-20 is recommended for my 2.4

trolling


18 KIA Sportage 2.4 AWD
QSUD 5W-20, PH9688

13 Hyundai Santa Fe Sport 2.0T
PP EuroL 5W-30, OE
Re: 0/20 HM vehicles 250k [Re: 4WD] #4678391
02/26/18 06:52 AM
02/26/18 06:52 AM
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MICHIGAN USA
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Sir , I do have 2 Decibels meters not one have a nice day .

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