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Yet another M1 0W-20 grade flavor! #4678075
02/25/18 08:40 PM
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We were shopping Meijer today so we of course had to check out the auto department. Well, wife didn't but I did.
What to my wondering eyes did appear but M1 EP HM!
Priced the same as regular EP, so a few bucks more than AFE or regular HM.
So, in the 0W-20 grade there are now AFE, HM, AP, EP and EP HM offerings of M1.
Five choices of M1 in this grade alone.
Seems like more than enough, but then I wasn't a marketing major.


18 Accord Hybrid FF
17 Forester 18K VME 0W-20
12 Accord LX 96K SSO 0W-20
09 Forester 95K M1HM 10W-30
01 Focus ZX3 118K PP 5W-20
96 Accord LX 104K T5 10W-30
95 318i
Re: Yet another M1 0W-20 grade flavor! [Re: fdcg27] #4678077
02/25/18 08:42 PM
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How about AP HM; cleans up the mess left by using AP


2004 Prius; 102K; ASL
2007 Yaris 78K 0w-40 Castrol
2006 B2300;132K;ALM


Was driving an ox cart; Now on the USS Enterprise
Re: Yet another M1 0W-20 grade flavor! [Re: fdcg27] #4678085
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Originally Posted By: fdcg27
We were shopping Meijer today so we of course had to check out the auto department. Well, wife didn't but I did.
What to my wondering eyes did appear but M1 EP HM!
Priced the same as regular EP, so a few bucks more than AFE or regular HM.
So, in the 0W-20 grade there are now AFE, HM, AP, EP and EP HM offerings of M1.
Five choices of M1 in this grade alone.
Seems like more than enough, but then I wasn't a marketing major.


Oh you saw this as well? smile

Re: Yet another M1 0W-20 grade flavor! [Re: fdcg27] #4678087
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09' Camry LE, 141,020 miles

PP 5w30 and TG 4967
Re: Yet another M1 0W-20 grade flavor! [Re: fdcg27] #4678114
02/25/18 09:18 PM
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Yes my WM had that today along with plenty of other stuff in the high price spread. So as a buyer I will sit on the sideline in the wait for Rollback mode.

Last edited by JohnnyJohnson; 02/25/18 09:18 PM.

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In: EDGE EP 5W-30 Bosch 3311 122537 7-18-18
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In: T6 5W-40 XG9100 74705 4-22-18
Re: Yet another M1 0W-20 grade flavor! [Re: fdcg27] #4678119
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To me it is getting a little ridiculous with Mobil 1 products lately. It almost seems like they had some kind of management shakeup, and they're moving the company in a rather odd, product overlapping, wasteful direction.


God Bless Our Troops

Re: Yet another M1 0W-20 grade flavor! [Re: demarpaint] #4678135
02/25/18 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted By: demarpaint
To me it is getting a little ridiculous with Mobil 1 products lately. It almost seems like they had some kind of management shakeup, and they're moving the company in a rather odd, product overlapping, wasteful direction.


Surprised too but look at the Amsoil photo we just got and there are many 0/5w20 motors running around today.
Heck, its the same price I already pay for EP it can be my second in line oil change for the Fusion as she tops the century mark next month its a 4-1/2 Q motor anyway

Management shakeup yes, the new CEO comes from that side of the business Tillerson was upstream

Last edited by 4WD; 02/25/18 09:31 PM.
Re: Yet another M1 0W-20 grade flavor! [Re: fdcg27] #4678167
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When at Wally World recently, I noticed that it seems everyone is now offering 0W-20 in a High Mileage variety.


2013 Subaru Outback 2.5i - Idemitsu 0W-20 & Mobil 1 filter
2007 Mercedes SL550 - M1M 5W-40 & MB OEM filter
2003 Oldsmobile Alero 3.4 - M1 5W-30 & NAPA Gold filter
Re: Yet another M1 0W-20 grade flavor! [Re: demarpaint] #4678174
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Wouldn't be surprised if the Mobil suits finds it cheaper and more effective to divert a few billion from the marketing black hole to fudge formulas a bit, brainstorm a novel application, enter a new SKU and print new labels. This way, it's an assault where it matters- in the aisle. Got a blue sedan made after 2001? Only Mobil 1 makes an oil specifically for blue sedans made after 2001!


"Nobody else has responded to you. Nobody has defended your position. Perhaps that's a clue"
Re: Yet another M1 0W-20 grade flavor! [Re: fdcg27] #4678193
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All 0w-20s are good so why claim or just rep 1 oil from one certain name you don't really care to name drop other than you are using their oil temporarily. I am running what's listed as or could be a full syn but more likely blend from the honda dealer service and this oil hasn't burned a drop for thousands of miles where as mobil 1 and even Pennzoil products have burned in higher viscosity grades (different car but still, who looks at engine design when they evaluate oil, certainly no one on BITOG)

I would even venture to say, minus engine design component, that if you are burning any oil using 30 weights (10w, 5w) or even higher or anything in between, try a 0w-20 and see if your burning ceases. Keep in mind, I've only used Phillips 66 synthetics made for Honda dealer but you can try any 0w-20 and try it, I know this one doesn't burn and it isn't even considered elite. Maybe it's time to consider all 0w-20s elite status over higher viscosity grades. Shear stable or oil that doesn't burn is important for wear and deposits namely minimizing them cause they can't be eliminated.

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Re: Yet another M1 0W-20 grade flavor! [Re: fdcg27] #4678284
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Quote:
To me it is getting a little ridiculous with Mobil 1 products lately. It almost seems like they had some kind of management shakeup, and they're moving the company in a rather odd, product overlapping, wasteful direction.


There is a marketing strategy that has been used by Campbell Soup,
Many varieties to push other brands off the shelf or overwhelm the
buyer.


My 2


There's no such thing as:
Too big of a battery,
Too large of a gas tank,
or too loud of a horn,
or too bright headlights.
Re: Yet another M1 0W-20 grade flavor! [Re: dwendt44] #4678351
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Well maybe MOBIL need an Extended Hi Milage PCMO to QUIET & remove IRON from thier other products .

Re: Yet another M1 0W-20 grade flavor! [Re: LEADED] #4678360
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Why dont you actually get a dB meter like I did ~ PUP was louder ~ what color parrot are you?

Re: Yet another M1 0W-20 grade flavor! [Re: 4WD] #4678369
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Originally Posted By: 4WD
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
To me it is getting a little ridiculous with Mobil 1 products lately. It almost seems like they had some kind of management shakeup, and they're moving the company in a rather odd, product overlapping, wasteful direction.


Surprised too but look at the Amsoil photo we just got and there are many 0/5w20 motors running around today.
Heck, its the same price I already pay for EP it can be my second in line oil change for the Fusion as she tops the century mark next month its a 4-1/2 Q motor anyway

Management shakeup yes, the new CEO comes from that side of the business Tillerson was upstream


Yes I saw the Amsoil photo as well. I won't comment....... Cheers1

It should be interesting to see what if any offerings come in retaliation from Pennzoil in the near future.......... Stay tuned.


God Bless Our Troops

Re: Yet another M1 0W-20 grade flavor! [Re: demarpaint] #4679009
02/26/18 07:05 PM
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fdcg27 Offline OP
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Well, SOPUS seems disinclined to market even their best synthetic oils as offering extended drain capabilities, even though we all know that PP 0W-20=M1 AFE and that PUP=M1 EP.
I therefore don't expect any Pennzoil extended drain offerings anytime soon even though doing so would involve no more than a change in labeling and website verbiage.


18 Accord Hybrid FF
17 Forester 18K VME 0W-20
12 Accord LX 96K SSO 0W-20
09 Forester 95K M1HM 10W-30
01 Focus ZX3 118K PP 5W-20
96 Accord LX 104K T5 10W-30
95 318i

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