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Can't believe I fixed it #4677872
02/25/18 04:40 PM
02/25/18 04:40 PM
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California
Stelth Offline OP
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Last year, I bought one of those wheeled string-trimmer things that looks kind of like a lawn mower, but has the really heavy string where the mower blade would be. Sears Craftsman, Briggs and Stratton engine. After getting quite a bit of use, it sat for a while. Then it wouldn't start. It had usually taken one or two pulls to start, very reliable. Now, nothing. So, I put more gas in it, no dice. Now I'm thinking carburetor trouble.

I have never had good luck with carbs. My feeling has been that they are inhabited by evil spirits, and I can't find the proper incantations. Cars have been fuel injected for quite a while, so I figured I didn't have to worry about it. Of course this one is plastic. I figured out how to get the float bowl off, and found that the float was moving freely, and that there was fuel in the bowl. Now what. I noticed a plastic deal in the middle of the bottom of the carb that looked like it might come out. After some judicious prying, a plastic thingy that looked like three towers came out. I discovered that there was a little brass insert that I couldn't blow through (gotta love the taste of gasoline). I showed it to my DW and asked her if she could think of anything small enough to stab into it, and sure enough, she suggested a sewing needle. Eureka.

Surprisingly, I was able to re-assemble everything on the first try, and now it starts on the first pull again.


Experts are often wrong, but rarely in doubt.
Re: Can't believe I fixed it [Re: Stelth] #4677881
02/25/18 04:48 PM
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Garbage bag wire ties are good for cleaning carbs if you don't have anything else like a set of cutting torch tip cleaners.

When I can't find the torch tip cleaners, which is often, I get a garbage bag wire tie, strip the paper/plastic from it and go to work. The wire is the right diameter and very flexible so I don't worry about it breaking off in an orifice.

Re: Can't believe I fixed it [Re: Stelth] #4677882
02/25/18 04:49 PM
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Good deal! Never be afraid to try.


Wife: 15' Audi A4 quattro 6 speed manual
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Re: Can't believe I fixed it [Re: Stelth] #4677883
02/25/18 04:50 PM
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I was vacationing once on this island where there was no industry, no hardware store, but a dump. Inspired by the overgrown hay in the 100 square feet of non-rocky property I lugged home a lawnmower that only ran if you pressed the primer button. It came full of gas and oil even!

Dismantled the carb with a crescent wrench I found, stripped the paper off a bread tie, shoved that through the carb, reassembled, and it started right up. I mowed. drive

Re: Can't believe I fixed it [Re: Stelth] #4677898
02/25/18 05:02 PM
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Deplorable in apple valley, ca
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I can rebuild a racing carb,Holley or carter. I don't have any luck with small engine ones. Spent most of Friday morning messing with my chainsaw. Finally took it to a shop about 3pm.


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Re: Can't believe I fixed it [Re: Stelth] #4677919
02/25/18 05:27 PM
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Many small engine carbs are as cheap as $12 to $15. Just replace it, instead of taking it to the shop. Very easy, works perfect every time.


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Re: Can't believe I fixed it [Re: bubbatime] #4677944
02/25/18 05:51 PM
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Taiwan
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If it worked, good, but I dont think a sewing needle is a very good choice because they have a taper.

Common recommendation is a nylon bristle.Also fine copper electrical wire strand.

In extremis I use a pressure jet of detergent-in+water from a hypodermic syringe, (after boiling) and in extreme extremis I poke it with the needle at the same time.

You need a fine needle, like from an insulin syringe, for the last resort.

Re: Can't believe I fixed it [Re: Stelth] #4678019
02/25/18 06:59 PM
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Where the wind comes sweepin'
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Where the wind comes sweepin'
Carb Jet. Meters fuel into the carb.

On older motorcycles it was a thing to get a "jet kit" to bump up the fuel delivery for more power or to make the bike run cooler.

I like to screw with people sometimes and I'll ask if their bike (that had EFI) has a performance jet kit. You'd be surprised how many people say yes because it sounds like something cool to have.

Re: Can't believe I fixed it [Re: Stelth] #4678033
02/25/18 07:10 PM
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Once met an old man at a flea market, he had a trailer full of weed eaters and saws and the like for sale. I asked him how he got all of them and how he fixed them. He said he added a quarter cup of sea foam in the tank first and some gas. I had a weed eater that came from my Dad's shed. He passed away like 12 years ago. it had sat all that time. Son added 2 stroke gas and tried to start it with no luck. I went over to it and added the sea foam. It started on the third pull and ran fine again Used it all afternoon on leaves. I'm a believer.


Don't waste your time on a slipshod repair.
Re: Can't believe I fixed it [Re: Stelth] #4678046
02/25/18 07:18 PM
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El Oeste
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Great story. Congrats on the successful repair. Too many good how-to videos not to at least give it a shot. That said, I really enjoy doing a carb rebuild on a Briggs or Tecumseh. On 2 cycles, itís just too cheap and easy to buy a new carb and swap it out. Tiny parts and passages can mean big headaches.

Re: Can't believe I fixed it [Re: boraticus] #4678298
02/26/18 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted By: boraticus
Garbage bag wire ties are good for cleaning carbs if you don't have anything else like a set of cutting torch tip cleaners. The wire is the right diameter and very flexible so I don't worry about it breaking off in an orifice.


Keep old broken guitar strings around for the same purpose! thumbsup


"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
Re: Can't believe I fixed it [Re: Linctex] #4678582
02/26/18 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted By: Linctex
Originally Posted By: boraticus
Garbage bag wire ties are good for cleaning carbs if you don't have anything else like a set of cutting torch tip cleaners. The wire is the right diameter and very flexible so I don't worry about it breaking off in an orifice.


Keep old broken guitar strings around for the same purpose! thumbsup


The best I can do is play a radio, so I don't have any guitar strings laying around.

Good idea though. I'll have to find some of my old rocker friends from the 60's who may still play a bit of guitar and ask them to save the thin strings for me.

What I find ironic is we're having this discussion regarding the best wires to use to clean a carb, but according to "experts" it's the last thing we're supposed to do to clean a carb?

The only sensible reason I can think of for not using a wire is that you won't be able to clean the carb and will need to take it into a shop so an expert can clean it, likely using a piece of wire. wink

Re: Can't believe I fixed it [Re: Stelth] #4678690
02/26/18 12:35 PM
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Quote:
The only sensible reason I can think of for not using a wire is that you won't be able to clean the carb and will need to take it into a shop so an expert can clean it, likely using a piece of wire. wink


But that would be the factory's officially endorsed wire. laugh


There's no such thing as:
Too big of a battery,
Too large of a gas tank,
or too loud of a horn,
or too bright headlights.
Re: Can't believe I fixed it [Re: Stelth] #4678739
02/26/18 01:38 PM
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This is how I do it smile


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Re: Can't believe I fixed it [Re: vwmaniaman] #4683942
03/04/18 09:58 AM
03/04/18 09:58 AM
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California
Stelth Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: vwmaniaman
Once met an old man at a flea market, he had a trailer full of weed eaters and saws and the like for sale. I asked him how he got all of them and how he fixed them. He said he added a quarter cup of sea foam in the tank first and some gas. I had a weed eater that came from my Dad's shed. He passed away like 12 years ago. it had sat all that time. Son added 2 stroke gas and tried to start it with no luck. I went over to it and added the sea foam. It started on the third pull and ran fine again Used it all afternoon on leaves. I'm a believer.


I'm going to keep this in mind. I have some other OPE that hasn't been run in a while. Thanks.


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