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100000 miles: stepping up on OCI & oil choice? #4677419
02/25/18 10:47 AM
02/25/18 10:47 AM
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Reunion Island
Superflan Offline OP
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Reunion Island
Hi,

My wifeís Koleos is now approaching 100k miles (160000 kilometers) and weíd like to keep the car as long as possible, 200k miles minimum.

Lately Iíve been doing 20000 kilometers oil changes (8 liters) with whatever ACEA C3 oil I can find cheap/on sale. Doing this since the 80000 kilometers mark. Before this, I was using Repsol or Q8 ACEA C4 oils, changed every 15000 kilometers.

To increase significantly durability, should I:
-reduce OCI to 10000 kilometers ?
-use some Castrol Edge or Magnatec, Motul 8100 ?
-go with 5w40 instead of 5w30 ?
-switch to low saps HDEO ?


Peugeot Partner 1.9 D, 5W40 C3, 245000 Km, running on WVO
Wife's Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV, dealerís overfilled, 16000 Km
Re: 100000 miles: stepping up on OCI & oil choice? [Re: Superflan] #4677456
02/25/18 11:20 AM
02/25/18 11:20 AM
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Don't know anything about your car, but 10K (miles) OCIs have worked well for me for the life of my engines(as long as I have owned them). I have put many miles on my vehicles in the last 40 years(200-350K) and never saw any sign of engine wear, oil consumption, or sludge. With a quality synthetic 10K should continue to work well for you.


2007 Ford Fusion 233,000 miles
M1 0-20 EP
2017 Ford Fusion 58K
M1 0-20 EP
10,000 mile OCIs on both engines
M1 ATF and MC LV
M1 10-30 in all OPE
MC filters

Re: 100000 miles: stepping up on OCI & oil choice? [Re: Superflan] #4677460
02/25/18 11:23 AM
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I would stay with whatever routine has worked well to this point.

Every 15,000KM is just fine.

I really do NOT think there's much you can do: "To increase significantly durability"


"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
Re: 100000 miles: stepping up on OCI & oil choice? [Re: Superflan] #4677471
02/25/18 11:27 AM
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Waco, TX
Linctex Offline
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The entire circumference of Rťunion Island is just a bit over 100 miles -

(
The island has a coastline of 207 km)


Where do you go to drive some many Miles?KM?


"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
Re: 100000 miles: stepping up on OCI & oil choice? [Re: Superflan] #4677493
02/25/18 11:39 AM
02/25/18 11:39 AM
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SE British Columbia, Canada
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I try to coordinate mine to divide the year in two and a change the oil in the spring to get rid of the oil contaminated by the the cold weather starts in Dec, Jan and Feb , then a change in the fall to to rid of the oil worn out by 90 degree weather during July and August. It works about to roughly 10,000 km, (6000 miles) each session which happens to agree with my OLM.

As always, I can hardly wait to change it.

banana


Last edited by Snagglefoot; 02/25/18 11:41 AM.

If you want the job done right......do it yourself.
Re: 100000 miles: stepping up on OCI & oil choice? [Re: Linctex] #4677530
02/25/18 11:52 AM
02/25/18 11:52 AM
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Reunion Island
Superflan Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: Linctex
Where do you go to drive some many Miles?KM?


There: Where wife's work

And to get there it's a 20 miles each way commute


Peugeot Partner 1.9 D, 5W40 C3, 245000 Km, running on WVO
Wife's Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV, dealerís overfilled, 16000 Km
Re: 100000 miles: stepping up on OCI & oil choice? [Re: tig1] #4677545
02/25/18 12:00 PM
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Superflan Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: tig1
Don't know anything about your car,


Engine: Renault-Nissan M9R, 2 liters L4 intercooled-turbocharged high pressure commonrail diesel, tuned to 280 lb ft @ 2200rpm, max power before pedal remap was 200 hp @4000 rpm. EGR off. DPF still here.


Peugeot Partner 1.9 D, 5W40 C3, 245000 Km, running on WVO
Wife's Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV, dealerís overfilled, 16000 Km
Re: 100000 miles: stepping up on OCI & oil choice? [Re: Superflan] #4678002
02/25/18 07:45 PM
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Shortening the drain interval to 15K K might help.
Other than that, you can only hope for the best.
I'd probably get on some EU boards and see what they have to tell you about this engine and what it needs to reach high mileage.
Google translator might be your friend here.


18 Accord Hybrid FF
17 Forester 18K VME 0W-20
12 Accord LX 96K SSO 0W-20
09 Forester 95K M1HM 10W-30
01 Focus ZX3 118K PP 5W-20
96 Accord LX 104K T5 10W-30
95 318i
Re: 100000 miles: stepping up on OCI & oil choice? [Re: Superflan] #4678156
02/25/18 09:53 PM
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Frogland / Brittany
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Iíd too reduce the OCI a bit. No fuel dilution issue?

Other than that, I think with regular maintenance this engine can reach 200K without major issue. .watch the coolant level perhaps, and replace regularly the fuel filter.

Iím also pretty sure OP wonít need google translate to go to French boards...but these might not be the most useful laugh
I donít know if this engine was sold much in German6 or Russia ?


96 Barchetta, Motul 300V 5W40 | 98 Barchetta, Quartz 9000 energy 5W40
05 Forfour 95, SHU 0W40 (gf's car) | 10 Colt Ralliart, 300V 0W40
Re: 100000 miles: stepping up on OCI & oil choice? [Re: Superflan] #4678207
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Reunion Island
Superflan Offline OP
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No fuel dilution issue as Iím aware of (no oil level going up, no gasoil smell in oil, I top up with 1 liter in the middle of OCI) but I have some kind of greasy leaks around the turbo-to-intercooler soft hose.


Peugeot Partner 1.9 D, 5W40 C3, 245000 Km, running on WVO
Wife's Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV, dealerís overfilled, 16000 Km
Re: 100000 miles: stepping up on OCI & oil choice? [Re: Superflan] #4681188
03/01/18 04:01 AM
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Tasmania, Australia
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If I were trying to get 300,000km plus out of modern small diesel, I'd be looking after the fuel system - a fuel pump or injector failure can just about be deemed "uneconomical to repair", and see the vehicle scrapped.

So, I'd stick with your 20,000km OCI, and I'd change the fuel filter then as well. In my Outlander, I use an Australian made fuel additive to disperse water and lubricate the injectors, no doubt you can find something similar locally.


MY16 Mitsubishi Outlander 2.2 diesel, 53,000km - Castrol 5w30
2006 Ford Falcon 4.0, 136,000km - Penrite Vantage 15w40, Ryco filter
Re: 100000 miles: stepping up on OCI & oil choice? [Re: Superflan] #4681640
03/01/18 05:59 PM
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Superflan, late Renault 2.0 dci are strong units. No problems doing 400k km. 500 is possible too. Main problem I see here is short trips. 40 miles per day will not suffice.
C3/4 or E6 will do best.

Last edited by chrisri; 03/01/18 06:00 PM.

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