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#4676774 - 02/24/18 05:30 PM What could cause this paint chips
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Registered: 03/15/13
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I noticed all these chips when rotating my tires today for the vibration concern I posted earlier. I hate to be "that guy"
But this was the side I had the rocker panel fixed and they sectioned it from right above this area to Midway under the car (between the doors)
The other side doesn't have these types of chips. This job was done 7 months ago. The car doesn't see any gravel roads only thing it really see is as Highway and it's Missouri so we do have the salt and Cinders on the road this time of year but still I wouldn't think it would look this bad and it's all the way down to the primer on every chip you see how would you guys handle this what would cause this what do you think?


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#4676786 - 02/24/18 05:46 PM Re: What could cause this paint chips [Re: ram_man]
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If it's the passenger side, that side always seems to get blasted more due to stuff running down the crown of the road.
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#4676790 - 02/24/18 05:50 PM Re: What could cause this paint chips [Re: ram_man]
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Leading edges always take more abuse from road debris, pretty common imo. Looks like the door is too far inset to protect that leading edge, therefore paint chips .
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#4676793 - 02/24/18 05:51 PM Re: What could cause this paint chips [Re: ram_man]
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That's probably true. But my wife has the same car with more miles than my entire car much less the paint job and it doesn't look like that.
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#4676796 - 02/24/18 05:53 PM Re: What could cause this paint chips [Re: Danno]
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Originally Posted By: Danno
Leading edges always take more abuse from road debris, pretty common imo. Looks like the door is too far inset to protect that leading edge, therefore paint chips .


Picture angle kind of makes it look like that but in person it's flush. I took the picture kind of cockeyed because it was raining really hard and I did want to kneel on the ground
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#4676816 - 02/24/18 06:16 PM Re: What could cause this paint chips [Re: ram_man]
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Originally Posted By: ram_man
That's probably true. But my wife has the same car with more miles than my entire car much less the paint job and it doesn't look like that.


Could be, but if this is replacement paint on a section that couldn't be hot baked on, it may be softer.

My understanding, could be wrong, is that if a replacement panel (hood, trunk, hatch, door) gets painted, it's done then baked at high heat. Maybe not factory hot, but hot all the same.

If the body structure gets painted, to prevent damage to plastics, rubbers, seals, etc., its baked much lower.

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#4676825 - 02/24/18 06:27 PM Re: What could cause this paint chips [Re: ram_man]
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If I took it to them what should I reasonably expect them to do? I dont want to be out of line but I also want the paint to be right as well.
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#4676843 - 02/24/18 06:42 PM Re: What could cause this paint chips [Re: JHZR2]
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Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Originally Posted By: ram_man
That's probably true. But my wife has the same car with more miles than my entire car much less the paint job and it doesn't look like that.


Could be, but if this is replacement paint on a section that couldn't be hot baked on, it may be softer.

My understanding, could be wrong, is that if a replacement panel (hood, trunk, hatch, door) gets painted, it's done then baked at high heat. Maybe not factory hot, but hot all the same.

If the body structure gets painted, to prevent damage to plastics, rubbers, seals, etc., its baked much lower.


Also depends on the shop. Some don't have a bake booth at all. That paint chips REALLY easily, I know from experience. The difference between a properly baked paint job that's designed to mirror OEM hardness and one that isn't is significant.
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#4676854 - 02/24/18 06:55 PM Re: What could cause this paint chips [Re: OVERKILL]
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Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Originally Posted By: ram_man
That's probably true. But my wife has the same car with more miles than my entire car much less the paint job and it doesn't look like that.


Could be, but if this is replacement paint on a section that couldn't be hot baked on, it may be softer.

My understanding, could be wrong, is that if a replacement panel (hood, trunk, hatch, door) gets painted, it's done then baked at high heat. Maybe not factory hot, but hot all the same.

If the body structure gets painted, to prevent damage to plastics, rubbers, seals, etc., its baked much lower.


Also depends on the shop. Some don't have a bake booth at all. That paint chips REALLY easily, I know from experience. The difference between a properly baked paint job that's designed to mirror OEM hardness and one that isn't is significant.


Would you expect this though so bad so soon? Would you say anything ?
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#4676868 - 02/24/18 07:17 PM Re: What could cause this paint chips [Re: ram_man]
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The shop should have a warranty, top tier shops have life time warranties.

And the whole repair/repaint vs. OEM paint, repaint will Never be as durable as OEM, due to the bake process. 180 degree's OEM, vs. 140 degree's if a repair facility even bakes it at all. Rocker panel= No bake!

Also, the problem could easily be a bad prep, paint process. I can't tell from here. Take it back to the shop, and try to be professional about it, hopefully they will be also.
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#4676941 - 02/24/18 08:19 PM Re: What could cause this paint chips [Re: ram_man]
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Loc: Ontario, Canada
Originally Posted By: ram_man
Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Originally Posted By: ram_man
That's probably true. But my wife has the same car with more miles than my entire car much less the paint job and it doesn't look like that.


Could be, but if this is replacement paint on a section that couldn't be hot baked on, it may be softer.

My understanding, could be wrong, is that if a replacement panel (hood, trunk, hatch, door) gets painted, it's done then baked at high heat. Maybe not factory hot, but hot all the same.

If the body structure gets painted, to prevent damage to plastics, rubbers, seals, etc., its baked much lower.


Also depends on the shop. Some don't have a bake booth at all. That paint chips REALLY easily, I know from experience. The difference between a properly baked paint job that's designed to mirror OEM hardness and one that isn't is significant.


Would you expect this though so bad so soon? Would you say anything ?


I would expect it on soft paint if you are regularly seeing small road debris like tiny stones getting kicked up that wouldn't necessarily chip OEM paint.

Maybe talk to the shop, ask them if they use a bake booth? And ask them about the chips?
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#4676943 - 02/24/18 08:27 PM Re: What could cause this paint chips [Re: ram_man]
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Plastic panels painted without a "plastic bonding" primer perhaps. Or paint without a flexible additive.


Edited by ammolab (02/24/18 08:28 PM)
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#4677014 - 02/24/18 09:29 PM Re: What could cause this paint chips [Re: ram_man]
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I had a car with paint chips that had been repaired by a large shop. They wouldn’t cover it, their warranty only covers peeling paint, not rock chips.
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#4677138 - 02/24/18 11:41 PM Re: What could cause this paint chips [Re: Nick1994]
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Originally Posted By: Nick1994
I had a car with paint chips that had been repaired by a large shop. They wouldn’t cover it, their warranty only covers peeling paint, not rock chips.


This is kind of what I'm afraid of and I understand that rock chips happen but that seems like an awful lot in a short amount of time especially when the other side doesn't exhibit the same look at all my concern isn't really the chips but it's how bad will it get in years not months
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#4677188 - 02/25/18 02:22 AM Re: What could cause this paint chips [Re: ram_man]
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To the OP... Go to the dealer and ask him if he can order those for your car...
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