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Dexos 1 Gen 2 5W-30 oils - does it matter? #4676592
02/24/18 03:35 PM
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Standing in the isle at Wal-Mart, it occurred to me that specs are so close on all of the Dexos1 G2 oils, there might not be any good reason to spend $25.67 for a 5-qt jug of M1 of PP when QSUD is $19.97 and will probably protect just as well. I would bet that at 200k miles you would not be able to tell a difference in wear / performance if you ran QSUD from mile 1 or M1 (or other more expensive oils) from mile 1.

Does anyone agree, or am I out to lunch? It just seems like D1G2 has really brought the specs so close together that brand doesn't matter. I am starting to think that QSUD, Catrol Magnatec, or even Supertech at the $18-20 price point might be the way to go.

Last edited by novadude; 02/24/18 03:52 PM.
Re: Dexos 1 Gen 2 5W-30 oils - does it matter? [Re: novadude] #4676596
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You will get no argument from me on that one.


2004 Corolla 129987
Out: EDGE EP 5W-30 Bosch 3311 7156 Miles
In: Havoline Pro DS 10w-30 Purolator PureOne 3-14-19 129693
2006 Duramax 74725
Out: T6 5W-40 M1-303
In: T6 5W-40 XG9100 73705 4-22-18
Re: Dexos 1 Gen 2 5W-30 oils - does it matter? [Re: novadude] #4676605
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+1


If you want the job done right......do it yourself.
Re: Dexos 1 Gen 2 5W-30 oils - does it matter? [Re: novadude] #4676614
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Originally Posted By: novadude
there might not be any good reason to spend $25.67 for a 5-qt jug of M1 of PP when QSUD is $19.97 and will probably protect just as well. I would bet that at 200k miles you would not be able to tell a difference in wear / performance if you ran QSUD from mile 1 or M1 (or other more expensive oils) from mile 1


I totally agree.

On lightly loaded engines (non-towing) it's not hard to get 200,000 miles
and the engine never saw a drop of synthetic in its life.


"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
Re: Dexos 1 Gen 2 5W-30 oils - does it matter? [Re: novadude] #4676638
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I think all the major players are pretty much the same also, I look for rebates, sales and thats what I get...
But I lean towards syns just because I think they'll keep and engine cleaner longer... 2cents

And I hope to get my engine to at least 300,000 miles

I put some mos2 in it today I swear got at least 5 mph more speed when going 55 down the highway LOL smile wink

Last edited by rollinpete; 02/24/18 04:28 PM.

Pete.

97 Ford Expl.Sport 4.0 ohv 4wd 5spddrive187k miles
03 Saturn Ion 2.2 L4 5spddrive238K miles
PPHM 5w30 and Fram Ultra x 2

Currently under the influence of oil shocked2

Re: Dexos 1 Gen 2 5W-30 oils - does it matter? [Re: novadude] #4676671
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They are all good oils with that designation and so choose the one with rebate, sale and maybe on sale with a rebate


1994 Jeep 162k Castrol Synblend 10w30
2014 Camry 38k Havoline 5w20
2018 Jeep Cherokee 5k FactFill
2014 HD Ultra 42k Mobil1 15w50
2012 Rav4 39k Mobil 1 0w20
Re: Dexos 1 Gen 2 5W-30 oils - does it matter? [Re: novadude] #4676757
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OR-there is that other thread about Amsoil that doesn't have a "DEXOS" rating.......

Re: Dexos 1 Gen 2 5W-30 oils - does it matter? [Re: novadude] #4676935
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It's a bit sad isn't it...but I think you are 100% correct.

real life performance, you couldn't slide a [censored] paper between any of the majors...looks like price is it now.

Re: Dexos 1 Gen 2 5W-30 oils - does it matter? [Re: rollinpete] #4676948
02/24/18 09:32 PM
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Gotta love that mos2 slobber


2006 Jeep Commander 3.7 V6 -112k (PUP5W30/XG3600)
2006 Toyota Corolla 1.8 VVTi -81k (PPHM5W30/XG3600)
1999 Toyota Corolla 1.8 -82k (PUP5W30/XG4386)
1998 Toyota Corolla 1.8 -64k (PUP5W30/XG4386)
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