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#4676592 - 02/24/18 02:35 PM Dexos 1 Gen 2 5W-30 oils - does it matter?
novadude Offline


Registered: 01/16/03
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Loc: Shippensburg, PA
Standing in the isle at Wal-Mart, it occurred to me that specs are so close on all of the Dexos1 G2 oils, there might not be any good reason to spend $25.67 for a 5-qt jug of M1 of PP when QSUD is $19.97 and will probably protect just as well. I would bet that at 200k miles you would not be able to tell a difference in wear / performance if you ran QSUD from mile 1 or M1 (or other more expensive oils) from mile 1.

Does anyone agree, or am I out to lunch? It just seems like D1G2 has really brought the specs so close together that brand doesn't matter. I am starting to think that QSUD, Catrol Magnatec, or even Supertech at the $18-20 price point might be the way to go.


Edited by novadude (02/24/18 02:52 PM)

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#4676596 - 02/24/18 02:38 PM Re: Dexos 1 Gen 2 5W-30 oils - does it matter? [Re: novadude]
JohnnyJohnson Offline


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You will get no argument from me on that one.
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#4676605 - 02/24/18 02:46 PM Re: Dexos 1 Gen 2 5W-30 oils - does it matter? [Re: novadude]
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+1

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#4676614 - 02/24/18 02:50 PM Re: Dexos 1 Gen 2 5W-30 oils - does it matter? [Re: novadude]
Linctex Offline


Registered: 12/31/16
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Originally Posted By: novadude
there might not be any good reason to spend $25.67 for a 5-qt jug of M1 of PP when QSUD is $19.97 and will probably protect just as well. I would bet that at 200k miles you would not be able to tell a difference in wear / performance if you ran QSUD from mile 1 or M1 (or other more expensive oils) from mile 1


I totally agree.

On lightly loaded engines (non-towing) it's not hard to get 200,000 miles
and the engine never saw a drop of synthetic in its life.
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#4676638 - 02/24/18 03:06 PM Re: Dexos 1 Gen 2 5W-30 oils - does it matter? [Re: novadude]
rollinpete Offline


Registered: 03/20/17
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Loc: Westfield, Ma.
I think all the major players are pretty much the same also, I look for rebates, sales and thats what I get...
But I lean towards syns just because I think they'll keep and engine cleaner longer... 2cents

And I hope to get my engine to at least 300,000 miles

I put some mos2 in it today I swear got at least 5 mph more speed when going 55 down the highway LOL smile wink


Edited by rollinpete (02/24/18 03:28 PM)
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#4676671 - 02/24/18 03:34 PM Re: Dexos 1 Gen 2 5W-30 oils - does it matter? [Re: novadude]
toneydoc Offline


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They are all good oils with that designation and so choose the one with rebate, sale and maybe on sale with a rebate
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#4676757 - 02/24/18 05:06 PM Re: Dexos 1 Gen 2 5W-30 oils - does it matter? [Re: novadude]
CKN Offline


Registered: 10/14/14
Posts: 3630
Loc: Utah
OR-there is that other thread about Amsoil that doesn't have a "DEXOS" rating.......

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#4676935 - 02/24/18 08:07 PM Re: Dexos 1 Gen 2 5W-30 oils - does it matter? [Re: novadude]
Shannow Offline


Registered: 12/12/02
Posts: 38960
Loc: 'Stralia
It's a bit sad isn't it...but I think you are 100% correct.

real life performance, you couldn't slide a [censored] paper between any of the majors...looks like price is it now.

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#4676948 - 02/24/18 08:32 PM Re: Dexos 1 Gen 2 5W-30 oils - does it matter? [Re: rollinpete]
incognito_2u Offline


Registered: 12/15/16
Posts: 111
Loc: Long Island, N.Y.
Gotta love that mos2 slobber
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