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what would you do / expect #4676557
02/24/18 02:00 PM
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ok so as many of you know I have had a fair amount of issues with tire vibrations.
1 few months back I bought a set of sumitomo htr p02 225/40r18. I had zero vibrations drove all the way to Colorado without an issue. I rotated them for the first time the other day front to back and back to front. and had a vibration at highway speeds 70-75mph I didn't go any faster than that. I had them re balanced today by NTB which is where I bought them. they feel better but still do vibrate enough to move the steering wheel. Without giving me a bad attitude what would you do? when I came home I swapped wheels with the other dart and with her tires and wheels i had no vibration. So its in the wheel tire combo like it has been every time in the past. is it possible this car is very particular with tire run out? is there any manufacturer with stricter run out variation than others.
How would you go about solving this issue once and for all?


2014 dodge dart GT
1995 Dodge ram 1500


Re: what would you do / expect [Re: ram_man] #4676559
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Go back to NTB and tell them the issue that you just described. Hopefully they'll put one or two new tires on it. Let them take care of it. Talk to the store manager from the beginning since they have the most authorization for new tires. A service advisor will first try to give you the run around to get rid of you.

Re: what would you do / expect [Re: ram_man] #4676573
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Well, it seems from what you have said that it is more than likely one of the front tires. I would have NTB road force the two front tires and see what they were and if they could be reduced. If anyone said the words “in spec” I’d ask to talk to someone with a clue preferably a supervisor with a clue, but that can be a rare combination.

It could be worse:



IME Yokohama is usually quite uniform and recently had very good luck with BFG and Mich Premier.


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Re: what would you do / expect [Re: ram_man] #4676611
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Are these OEM wheels?

Rotate the left side. Any vibrations? If not, rotate the right side. Any vibrations? If so then there's your problem wheel.


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Re: what would you do / expect [Re: ram_man] #4676618
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Was this car in an accident?

Re: what would you do / expect [Re: ram_man] #4676622
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many shops that have road force machines dont use that feature.

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Re: what would you do / expect [Re: ram_man] #4676625
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Oem wheels yes. And car has never been in an accident. The rocker panel had to be fixed it was hit with a curb but that's not relevant to this I don't think.

Last edited by ram_man; 02/24/18 03:08 PM.

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Re: what would you do / expect [Re: ram_man] #4676685
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Maybe you have bent wheel(s)?


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Re: what would you do / expect [Re: ram_man] #4676701
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Originally Posted By: ram_man
Oem wheels yes. And car has never been in an accident. The rocker panel had to be fixed it was hit with a curb but that's not relevant to this I don't think.


If the rocker hit a curb I'd guess that a wheel could have too. Bent wheel would result.

Swap the two sides independently and determine the guilty wheel. Do more diagnostics from there.

Re: what would you do / expect [Re: JHZR2] #4676766
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Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Originally Posted By: ram_man
Oem wheels yes. And car has never been in an accident. The rocker panel had to be fixed it was hit with a curb but that's not relevant to this I don't think.


If the rocker hit a curb I'd guess that a wheel could have too. Bent wheel would result.

Swap the two sides independently and determine the guilty wheel. Do more diagnostics from there.


wheel never touched the curb it was a freak deal turned to sharp out of a parking spot forgetting the curb was there and caught it. As soon as I heard it scrape I stopped. Was doing 1mph.
I swapped left side and had no change and the. Swapped right and vibration is gone steering wheel is smooth. That's also the wheel with the most weight on it.


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Re: what would you do / expect [Re: ram_man] #4676818
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Originally Posted By: ram_man
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Originally Posted By: ram_man
Oem wheels yes. And car has never been in an accident. The rocker panel had to be fixed it was hit with a curb but that's not relevant to this I don't think.


If the rocker hit a curb I'd guess that a wheel could have too. Bent wheel would result.

Swap the two sides independently and determine the guilty wheel. Do more diagnostics from there.


wheel never touched the curb it was a freak deal turned to sharp out of a parking spot forgetting the curb was there and caught it. As soon as I heard it scrape I stopped. Was doing 1mph.
I swapped left side and had no change and the. Swapped right and vibration is gone steering wheel is smooth. That's also the wheel with the most weight on it.


Well you know what it is, how much is a refinished one on eBay or elsewhere?

Ive generally found new OE to be around $400; refinished about half that.

Re: what would you do / expect [Re: ram_man] #4676824
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It's around $600 new. I really doubt it's the wheel I've had this issue so much with various tires. I'm almost certain it's a tire issue like usual.
I wonder what happens if they dont have the tire in stock....I didn't see it on their website.


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Re: what would you do / expect [Re: ram_man] #4676856
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You have a bent wheel. When the wheel is on the back on the car you will not feel the vibration in the steering wheel.


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Re: what would you do / expect [Re: ram_man] #4676862
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Originally Posted By: dan_erickson
You have a bent wheel. When the wheel is on the back on the car you will not feel the vibration in the steering wheel.


But this issue has happened before. the exact issue and it's always been tires. Needless to say I'm skeptical of a bent wheel.. because of all the tire issues I've had. a tire out balance on the rear wouldn't be as noticable or at all either.


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Re: what would you do / expect [Re: ram_man] #4676875
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start with a re-balance. make sure they use the road force balancer if they have one. My local DT has one but does not use it unless they "have to"


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