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Toyota Differential fluid #4676173
02/24/18 08:48 AM
02/24/18 08:48 AM
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Albany, NY
ford46guy Offline OP
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Toyota specs 80w90 for the front, and their crazy expensive 75W85 for the rear. Would be almost $70 for 2 qts. Is that really necessary? Some dealers don't even have the cans of it.


95 Tbird V8 240K PP SYNTH ULTRA 5W30
98 MGM 160K M1 HM 5W20
96 Explorer EB V6 159K PP SYNTH HM 5W30
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Re: Toyota Differential fluid [Re: ford46guy] #4676181
02/24/18 08:57 AM
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There plenty of good synthetic diff fluids out there such as Amsoil, Mobil, etc.,etc. Say goodbye to Toyota.

Last edited by Snagglefoot; 02/24/18 08:57 AM.

If you want the job done right......do it yourself.
Re: Toyota Differential fluid [Re: ford46guy] #4676190
02/24/18 09:02 AM
02/24/18 09:02 AM
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Use 75W90 front and rear and don't worry. I used Valvoline Synpower 75W90 in the rear differential in a WRX I bought new.
Napa and Auto Zone has it.


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Re: Toyota Differential fluid [Re: ford46guy] #4676214
02/24/18 09:28 AM
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I think Redline makes a 75W85...and it costs around $15/qt which I think would at least keep you compliant for warranty reasons.

But the actual Toyota branded 75W85 is absurdly expensive.

Re: Toyota Differential fluid [Re: ford46guy] #4676236
02/24/18 09:51 AM
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Toyota oem fluid is not necessary. You can run 75w90 or 80w90 in both front & rear w no issues. If u run 80w90, change it more often


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Re: Toyota Differential fluid [Re: ford46guy] #4676250
02/24/18 10:09 AM
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It is not necessary. I asked my Toyota dealer what they use and they told me mobil 1 75w-90 with a “packet of LS fluid additive”. I asked you even need the additive if the fluid comes with it already? They said yes


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'08 Hyundai Elantra-Mobil 1
'96 Ranger R72 90hpJohnson
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Re: Toyota Differential fluid [Re: ford46guy] #4676279
02/24/18 10:35 AM
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What's inside the diff? If it's a straight up open diff then I have to think it doesn't care much about what it has for lube (no clutches needing modifiers etc).


2011 Toyota Camry, base, 2.5L/6MT, 163k, hers
2010 Toyota Tundra DC, 4.6L/6AT, 144k, ours
1999 Toyota Camry LE, 2.2L/4AT, 190k, his
Re: Toyota Differential fluid [Re: pda1122] #4676328
02/24/18 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted By: pda1122
It is not necessary. I asked my Toyota dealer what they use and they told me mobil 1 75w-90 with a “packet of LS fluid additive”. I asked you even need the additive if the fluid comes with it already? They said yes
Why?


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Re: Toyota Differential fluid [Re: ford46guy] #4676484
02/24/18 01:47 PM
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Toyota's lovefest with their products.

Re: Toyota Differential fluid [Re: ford46guy] #4676485
02/24/18 01:47 PM
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I just bought Amsoil Severe Gear 75W90. No issues for 30K miles on my last fill.


2015 Tacoma 4.0L 60K (as of 02/23/18)
AMSOIL SS 0W30 / Toyota filter

2018 CRV 1.5L (as of 05/11/18)
Factory fill / Honda filter
Re: Toyota Differential fluid [Re: pda1122] #4676553
02/24/18 02:58 PM
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Albany, NY
ford46guy Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: pda1122
It is not necessary. I asked my Toyota dealer what they use and they told me mobil 1 75w-90 with a “packet of LS fluid additive”. I asked you even need the additive if the fluid comes with it already? They said yes


My Explorer needed it too even though Valvoline fluid has it. It made a slight rubbing noise in slow turns, added 1/2 bottle and it is fine now.


95 Tbird V8 240K PP SYNTH ULTRA 5W30
98 MGM 160K M1 HM 5W20
96 Explorer EB V6 159K PP SYNTH HM 5W30
95 Conti 155K MC 5W20
11 GS350 90K PP HM 5W30
Re: Toyota Differential fluid [Re: ARB1977] #4676558
02/24/18 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted By: ARB1977
I just bought Amsoil Severe Gear 75W90. No issues for 30K miles on my last fill.


So you put that in the front and rear?


95 Tbird V8 240K PP SYNTH ULTRA 5W30
98 MGM 160K M1 HM 5W20
96 Explorer EB V6 159K PP SYNTH HM 5W30
95 Conti 155K MC 5W20
11 GS350 90K PP HM 5W30
Re: Toyota Differential fluid [Re: NH73] #4676990
02/24/18 10:13 PM
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Maine, USA
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Originally Posted By: NH73
Originally Posted By: pda1122
It is not necessary. I asked my Toyota dealer what they use and they told me mobil 1 75w-90 with a “packet of LS fluid additive”. I asked you even need the additive if the fluid comes with it already? They said yes
Why?

Why use LS fluid additive? Grinding noises I guess. I don’t know specifics but I think it’s some kind of friction modifier and apparently isn’t enough in the fluid over the counter


'13 Toyota Tundra 5.7-Idemitsu
'08 Hyundai Elantra-Mobil 1
'96 Ranger R72 90hpJohnson
'03 Ski Doo REV 600 H.O.
‘01 Kawasaki KDX 220r
Re: Toyota Differential fluid [Re: ford46guy] #4677182
02/25/18 02:44 AM
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One of the local dealers here uses MOC Gear Guard 75W140 on all customer-pay differential services.

I would still encourage using 75W85. Redline makes a good product for $15/qt.


2011 Toyota Prius - 173k - Various 0W-20 (Brew)
2007 Honda Accord 2.4 - 131K - Mobil 1 EP HM 5W-30
Re: Toyota Differential fluid [Re: ford46guy] #4677327
02/25/18 09:08 AM
02/25/18 09:08 AM
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Austin, TX
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Originally Posted By: ford46guy
Originally Posted By: ARB1977
I just bought Amsoil Severe Gear 75W90. No issues for 30K miles on my last fill.


So you put that in the front and rear?


Ran Amsoil Severe Gear for my diff and x-case for an entire 100K interval and it served very well.
There is nothing in the market better than Amsoil and will serve very very well and reasonably priced ($15/Q)


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2006 Toyota Highlander 4WD
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