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Napa full synthetic #4676139
02/24/18 07:01 AM
02/24/18 07:01 AM
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Ohio USA
moto367 Offline OP
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Ohio USA
I'm trying to find more information on the Napa full synthetic oils. I was told by the local Napa it is made by Valvoline. Is this oil the same as Valvoline or made by Valvoline to Napa's specs? And, is it good oil? I've also been told the Napa oil is not good enough for turbos (Ford 3.5L Ecoboost Transit van in my case). Can't elaborate on that other than it breaks down quicker due to the higher temps. With that, I don't run this motor hard. Mainly highway use and I pretty much baby it and drive conservatively. Oil changes every 5000 miles. Is there better oil I should be using? Thanks for any info.

Re: Napa full synthetic [Re: moto367] #4676141
02/24/18 07:04 AM
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Campbellsville, KY
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I believe the consensus is that Napa's syn is Valvoline Synpower with a slightly weaker add pack. I don't think it'd make a dime's worth of difference in your case.


To quote a friend, "Synthetics, man."

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Re: Napa full synthetic [Re: moto367] #4676155
02/24/18 07:20 AM
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PA
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I stock up on NAPA oil when it's on sale. They had their 5 qt. jug of full syn 0W-20 on sale a while ago for $18.99.

It says right on the bottle "engineered by Valvoline" or something like that. It also is API certified so run it without worries.

https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/NCA75541

Re: Napa full synthetic [Re: moto367] #4676157
02/24/18 07:24 AM
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The Midwest
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If your going to use 5W30, I'd pick something Dexos 1 gen 2. The most recent Dexos 1 gen 2 oils have a higher flash point than oils
from 5 years ago. Napa has good sales on quart bottles of their own brand oils, but I would use something a little better in that engine.
Walmart has good pricing on oils in 5 quart jugs. The majors don't make formula differences in name brand oils for Walmart vs Napa or Auto Zone.


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Re: Napa full synthetic [Re: moto367] #4676169
02/24/18 07:38 AM
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Upstate NY
Donald Offline
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I have not seen the NAPA synthetic on sale in awhile. It's in both of my Subaru but neither is a turbo.

Last edited by Donald; 02/24/18 07:39 AM.

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Re: Napa full synthetic [Re: moto367] #4676171
02/24/18 07:44 AM
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North Carolina
oilchangeguy Offline
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go to the PQIA site and look at the motor oil summary page. It gives the specs and is made by Valvoline. I have been using it for ten years. Really good stuff. I bought 4 cases of 5w20 when it was on sale for 2.99 a qt.


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Re: Napa full synthetic [Re: oilchangeguy] #4676174
02/24/18 07:48 AM
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Champlain/Hudson Valley
Kira Offline
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I must read up on these new oils. What "Dexos1-generation 2" means is something I do not know.

Is there a Dexos 2? I assume these "new" designations pertain to turbocharged engines and direct injection engines.

Re: Napa full synthetic [Re: moto367] #4676187
02/24/18 08:01 AM
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Type Dexos in the search function and enjoy the read.


If you want the job done right......do it yourself.
Re: Napa full synthetic [Re: moto367] #4676191
02/24/18 08:03 AM
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Wet side WA
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Wet side WA
Originally Posted By: moto367
I'm trying to find more information on the Napa full synthetic oils. I was told by the local Napa it is made by Valvoline. Is this oil the same as Valvoline or made by Valvoline to Napa's specs? And, is it good oil? I've also been told the Napa oil is not good enough for turbos (Ford 3.5L Ecoboost Transit van in my case). Can't elaborate on that other than it breaks down quicker due to the higher temps. With that, I don't run this motor hard. Mainly highway use and I pretty much baby it and drive conservatively. Oil changes every 5000 miles. Is there better oil I should be using? Thanks for any info.


Well you might want to take a look at this UOA someone that doesn't know what they are talking about has been feeding you a line of B. S. !

https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4664185/'11_Toyota_Sienna_Napa_Full_Sy#Post4664185


Originally Posted By: Donald
I have not seen the NAPA synthetic on sale in awhile. It's in both of my Subaru but neither is a turbo.


It should be about ready to come back on sale I bought it for $3.49 a quart a couple months back.

Last edited by JohnnyJohnson; 02/24/18 08:09 AM.

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Re: Napa full synthetic [Re: moto367] #4676218
02/24/18 08:34 AM
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Idaho
CT8 Offline
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Idaho
Originally Posted By: moto367
I've also been told the Napa oil is not good enough for turbos (Ford 3.5L Ecoboost Transit van in my case). Can't elaborate on that other than it breaks down quicker due to the higher temps.
What oil spec does the owners manual recommend? The factory fill is a semisyn. If the oil has the recommended specs and is a major brand the will be good to go link to eco boost


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Re: Napa full synthetic [Re: Kira] #4676225
02/24/18 08:38 AM
02/24/18 08:38 AM
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Idaho
CT8 Offline
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Idaho
Originally Posted By: Kira
I must read up on these new oils. What "Dexos1-generation 2" means is something I do not know.

Is there a Dexos 2? I assume these "new" designations pertain to turbocharged engines and direct injection engines.
The oils have been tweaked to lower the incidents of low speed preignition .


2015 Ford F150 2.7
2018 Ford F350 6.2
Re: Napa full synthetic [Re: moto367] #4676240
02/24/18 08:58 AM
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socal
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socal
Napa full syn in 5w30 will be fine, especially w 5k OCI.


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Re: Napa full synthetic [Re: barkingspider] #4676246
02/24/18 09:01 AM
02/24/18 09:01 AM
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Spring,Texas
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Originally Posted By: barkingspider
Napa full syn in 5w30 will be fine, especially w 5k OCI.


+1


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Re: Napa full synthetic [Re: moto367] #4676257
02/24/18 09:14 AM
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New England
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New England
Get something dexos1gen2. It was designed for this application. I like getting the right part for the job, no questions asked.


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Re: Napa full synthetic [Re: moto367] #4676273
02/24/18 09:32 AM
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USA
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Napa Synthetic is rebranded Synpower. It can handle 5k with no problems smile

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