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Mobile CI-4+ in Cummins 5.9L #4674200
02/22/18 10:19 AM
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I run a 2006 RAM 3500 with the 5.9L Cummins, 6spd Manual. Years ago I bought a pallet of Delo CI-4+ 15-40 in 5 gallon pails. I did this when the industry first made the move to CJ oils, and all the concerns about the pre-2007 diesels at that time. So my truck has only run CI-4+ oil since it was manufactured. This was the recommended oil spec by Cummins at time of manufacture.

I am down to my last pail of Delo CI-4+. In the last few years Chevron stopped making the CI-4+.

I found that Mobile still makes a Delvac conventional oil in CI-4+.
https://www.mobil.com/en/mobil-delvac/products/engine-oils/mobil-delvac/mobil-delvac-mx-f2

So I'm thinking of sticking with the CI-4+ and not having to switch to the the CK oils.

Thoughts?

MileHi

Re: Mobile CI-4+ in Cummins 5.9L [Re: MileHi] #4674214
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Where do you find it?


2007.5 dodge cummins 6.7 liter. Chevron Delo400 15w40. 7000 mile or 250-300hr intervals.

Re: Mobile CI-4+ in Cummins 5.9L [Re: MileHi] #4674216
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Just run UOA or 2 before running out. Then switch to CK-4 to see if there is a major difference. I doubt you will see any change.

Re: Mobile CI-4+ in Cummins 5.9L [Re: MileHi] #4674253
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If you can get the Delvac MX, run it. It's been on my list of oils to try, but I've been too lazy to go to a Mobil distributor to get it.
I just run Rotella T6 that is easily available at Walmart, and it does fine.


1985 Z51 Corvette track car
2002 Camaro Z28 LS1/6-speed
2001 Dodge Ram 2500 diesel
1972 GMC 1500 shortbed project truck
Re: Mobile CI-4+ in Cummins 5.9L [Re: Invasivore] #4674831
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Originally Posted By: Invasivore
Just run UOA or 2 before running out. Then switch to CK-4 to see if there is a major difference. I doubt you will see any change.


X 1
That's what I would do as well. I bought seven cases of the Schaeffers 15w40 CI-4 about 10 years ago and down to my last case. If you can find the Mobil Delvac MX for a decent price then go for it but there are some really good oils to choose from at a fairly decent price.


1996 Dodge RAM 2500 5.9l diesel
Re: Mobile CI-4+ in Cummins 5.9L [Re: MileHi] #4675025
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Amsoil is still making CI+4 oil, with no sign of stopping.


07 Lincoln Navigator M1 0w-40/FU
68 Charger R/T / Supercharged 440 VR1/DBL7349
07 Ram 3500 4x4 / Cummins 6.7 /DBL7349
17 Maserati GranTurismo Cabrio
Re: Mobile CI-4+ in Cummins 5.9L [Re: MileHi] #4675048
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Cen-Pe-Co S3 or TRC ProSpec III are good “boutique “ CI4+ oils


05 Unimog U500/Unicat camper/Delvac 1 SHC ACEA E4/E5
09 BMW X5 35d/Delvac1 LE 5W30
88 Toyota OJ50LV OM314 motor D1 SHC
52 Dodge M37/Hercules diesel

Re: Mobile CI-4+ in Cummins 5.9L [Re: motor_oil_madman] #4675342
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Originally Posted By: motor_oil_madman
Where do you find it?

https://www.thelubricantstore.com/mobil-delvac-mx-15w40-12x1


Kevin
63 Galaxie 500, 390; dad bought it new...
99 Accord V6
15 CR-V
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Re: Mobile CI-4+ in Cummins 5.9L [Re: MileHi] #4675579
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I am running Cen Pe Co extreme duty 5=40 Synthetic in CJ-4, S-3 is for gas i believe


2014 4x4 F350 Lariat Super Duty, 6.7 PS...15-40 Cenpeco
2016 Indian Chieftain 20-50 Mobil 1 V-twin Synthetic
Re: Mobile CI-4+ in Cummins 5.9L [Re: Bugize] #4675652
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Originally Posted By: Bugize
S-3 is for gas i believe

Wrong.
Look at the specs


05 Unimog U500/Unicat camper/Delvac 1 SHC ACEA E4/E5
09 BMW X5 35d/Delvac1 LE 5W30
88 Toyota OJ50LV OM314 motor D1 SHC
52 Dodge M37/Hercules diesel

Re: Mobile CI-4+ in Cummins 5.9L [Re: ag_ghost] #4676067
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Originally Posted By: ag_ghost
Originally Posted By: motor_oil_madman
Where do you find it?

https://www.thelubricantstore.com/mobil-delvac-mx-15w40-12x1


Here is another site that may be of help on what you are looking for

https://agcrazy.com/122215-mobil-delvac-mx-f2-15w-40

Last edited by Boczech; 02/24/18 01:36 AM.

1996 Dodge RAM 2500 5.9l diesel
Re: Mobile CI-4+ in Cummins 5.9L [Re: MileHi] #4676589
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I called AgCrazy. They have it at $57 for 5 gal pail, but charge a lot for shipping, so no real savings unless you could pick it up from them. The Lubricant Store offers free shipping on orders over $300, so at 5 5-gal pails they send it to you at no charge. $72 for 5 gals for the Delvac MX F2.

I'll look at the Amsoil.

Note: The oil that is CI-4+ is the Delvac MX F2. The MX without the F2 is a CI-4 which is not the same spec.

Thanks for the great replys.

Re: Mobile CI-4+ in Cummins 5.9L [Re: MileHi] #4676612
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Thanks m37charlie for those tips. The TRC Prospec III looks very good from their info. Plus its a synthetic, while the Delvac MX F2 is conventional. They tout a TBN of 15, which is the highest I've seen. The Amsoil CI-4+ rates a TBN of 12.

The Amsoil is $42 a gallon. Ouch.

The Delvac MX F2 is $14.50/gal.from Lubricant Store.

I will call Texas Refining on Monday to learn the price of the Prospec III.

BTW, the Cen-Pe-Co S3 is a CI-4 spec, not CI-4+. From what I saw...

Re: Mobile CI-4+ in Cummins 5.9L [Re: MileHi] #4678907
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Just spoke to Texas Refining. Their Pro-Spec III CI-4+ synthetic blend is $133.65 for a 6(six) gal pail, if you spend over $375, making it $22.25 per gal. $148.50 is their retail for 6 gal pails. They also provide no-cost (shipping only) used oil analysis samples if you are running their products, through Wearcheck. They sell primarily to truckers, farmers, construction, excavation, light truck owners etc., - the folks running pre-2007 diesels.

I'm going to go with them and try for extended drain intervals using their oil sampling service. Want to stick with the CI-4+.

https://www.texasrefinery.com/products/engine-oils/pro-spec-iii-synthetic-blend/

Re: Mobile CI-4+ in Cummins 5.9L [Re: MileHi] #4678945
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Phillips 66 makes a ci4 that I've seen at the local farm and ranch store. (Atwood's) might be just in Oklahoma.

Ci4

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