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Amsoil and light weight oil #4674135
02/22/18 09:38 AM
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Bullwinkle007 Offline OP
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https://youtu.be/ynRkA0-Q8lk

By 0/20. I'll follow Honda uk oil weights for the same engine. Which states I can use a 0/40


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Re: Amsoil and light weight oil [Re: Bullwinkle007] #4674195
02/22/18 11:11 AM
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2013 video, but use what you like.


18 KIA Sportage 2.4 AWD
M1HM 10W-30, OE

13 Hyundai Santa Fe Sport 2.0T
PP EuroL 5W-30, OE
Re: Amsoil and light weight oil [Re: Bullwinkle007] #4674208
02/22/18 11:26 AM
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Yes from 2013,I did a test at home, I took a hot frying pan, put some RP 0/20 in, it caught fire after about 1.5 min. Then I took some dino Napa 10/30, it just smoked like a blown racing engine. I need to redue this experiment and record actual temps,

My particular Honda with a 5sp manual, the engine turns 3000 rpm cruising 80mph, 3500rpm at 90. Now that produces more heat say the 5sp auto model at that same speed cruising under 2500rpm. In the summer where I live, not uncommon for 100 plus outside.

European cars run heavyweight oils for a reason. BMW m cars use 10/60, others are 5/40, 0/40, why? Because they know it offers more protection than a light oil. There's only 1 reason for light oil, gas mileage. I could care less if I lose one or two miles per gallon if I know I will gain far more and protection of the engine

How can Ford Chevy Toyota say use a 0 20 oil in a V8 then go pull heavy loads and that pickup truck and expect that engine to last three four hundred thousand miles running a thin light weight oil.

If you take a car on the race track say the Corvette they recommend 530 for daily use but on the track use 15/50. Because they know the 5/30. Will be stretched Beyond its limits oil temp gets hot and you putting extreme stress on it so if you run a 15/50 1 South oil gets hot it will probably send down somewhere near 30 weight. Why do you think Chevy says go back to a 530 on a non track day? Because they want to continue to achieve their fuel mileage numbers and Cafe.

Re: Amsoil and light weight oil [Re: Bullwinkle007] #4674215
02/22/18 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted By: Bullwinkle007
Yes from 2013,I did a test at home, I took a hot frying pan, put some RP 0/20 in, it caught fire after about 1.5 min. Then I took some dino Napa 10/30, it just smoked like a blown racing engine. I need to redue this experiment and record actual temps,

Ah yes, the ever popular frying pan test. You observed the auto-ignition temperature of the oil, can you explain how that relates to blowing engines or anything else? Is the auto-ignition temperature related to CAFE?


1994 BMW 530i, 241K
1996 Honda Accord, 267K
1999 Toyota Sienna, 410K
2000 Toyota ECHO, 280K
Re: Amsoil and light weight oil [Re: Bullwinkle007] #4674234
02/22/18 11:55 AM
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This same thick vs thin rhetoric gets repeated over and over by new members all of the time. Just fill your Honda with 10W60 or 15W50 and be happy that your engine will outlast all of the ones maintained by ignorant, misguided owners who are using the recommended weight.

Originally Posted By: Bullwinkle007


European cars run heavyweight oils for a reason. BMW m cars use 10/60, others are 5/40, 0/40, why? Because they know it offers more protection than a light oil. There's only 1 reason for light oil, gas mileage. I could care less if I lose one or two miles per gallon if I know I will gain far more and protection of the engine

How can Ford Chevy Toyota say use a 0 20 oil in a V8 then go pull heavy loads and that pickup truck and expect that engine to last three four hundred thousand miles running a thin light weight oil.

If you take a car on the race track say the Corvette they recommend 530 for daily use but on the track use 15/50. Because they know the 5/30. Will be stretched Beyond its limits oil temp gets hot and you putting extreme stress on it so if you run a 15/50 1 South oil gets hot it will probably send down somewhere near 30 weight. Why do you think Chevy says go back to a 530 on a non track day? Because they want to continue to achieve their fuel mileage numbers and Cafe.

Last edited by farrarfan1; 02/22/18 11:56 AM.

If laughter is the best medicine, then why do sick people go to doctors instead of comedians?
Re: Amsoil and light weight oil [Re: farrarfan1] #4674287
02/22/18 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted By: farrarfan1
This same thick vs thin rhetoric gets repeated over and over by new members all of the time. Just fill your Honda with 10W60 or 15W50 and be happy that your engine will outlast all of the ones maintained by ignorant, misguided owners who are using the recommended weight.

Originally Posted By: Bullwinkle007


European cars run heavyweight oils for a reason. BMW m cars use 10/60, others are 5/40, 0/40, why? Because they know it offers more protection than a light oil. There's only 1 reason for light oil, gas mileage. I could care less if I lose one or two miles per gallon if I know I will gain far more and protection of the engine

How can Ford Chevy Toyota say use a 0 20 oil in a V8 then go pull heavy loads and that pickup truck and expect that engine to last three four hundred thousand miles running a thin light weight oil.

If you take a car on the race track say the Corvette they recommend 530 for daily use but on the track use 15/50. Because they know the 5/30. Will be stretched Beyond its limits oil temp gets hot and you putting extreme stress on it so if you run a 15/50 1 South oil gets hot it will probably send down somewhere near 30 weight. Why do you think Chevy says go back to a 530 on a non track day? Because they want to continue to achieve their fuel mileage numbers and Cafe.


1. Oil recommendation is just that. It relates to Cafe bc they need to meet government standards. They could care less how long you keep it for. The mfg would prefer you buy another one.

I drove my 04 camry to 350k. I replaced it bc it was rear-ended. It burned some oil, I ran shell T6 in that. 5/40. No issues what so ever.tried 5/20. It went through that no problem. Recommendation for that year was 5/30. I feel ACEA rated oils are far superior to API. Just because I'm new here does not mean I do not have knowledge I don't understand theory and logic.

Re: Amsoil and light weight oil [Re: Bullwinkle007] #4674296
02/22/18 12:31 PM
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What do you think you're gaining going to the thicker oil exactly? Longer engine life?


Mine: 2019 Chevy spark 1.4 Non-turbo
Mobil 1 0w20 AFE
ACDelco UPF64R

Wife's: 2018 Chevy spark 1.4 Non-turbo
Mobil 1 0w20 AFE
ACDelco UPF64R
Re: Amsoil and light weight oil [Re: Bullwinkle007] #4674308
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Originally Posted By: Bullwinkle007
I drove my 04 camry to 350k. I replaced it bc it was rear-ended. It burned some oil, I ran shell T6 in that. 5/40. No issues what so ever.tried 5/20. It went through that no problem. Recommendation for that year was 5/30. I feel ACEA rated oils are far superior to API. Just because I'm new here does not mean I do not have knowledge I don't understand theory and logic.

So how is auto-ignition temperature related to longevity or CAFE?


1994 BMW 530i, 241K
1996 Honda Accord, 267K
1999 Toyota Sienna, 410K
2000 Toyota ECHO, 280K
Re: Amsoil and light weight oil [Re: JoelB] #4674310
02/22/18 12:38 PM
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In theory you will gain longer life, 0/20 hths is 25%:less than a 0/40, vi is also hi. Around 180. Also found higher levels of zinc and prosperous, without having to pay for the higher cost of Redline and RP

Corvette recommends a 5/30. Track use 15/50. So theirs no issues using a 0/40 in my case when the mfg says it's fine in UK, and au, same engine. HP is different obviously bc of tuning and grades of gas. I could make more power running vp racing street 100, and only bc it's better than CA pump gas

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Re: Amsoil and light weight oil [Re: Bullwinkle007] #4674316
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Originally Posted By: Bullwinkle007
In theory you will gain longer life, 0/20 hths is 25%:less in a 0/40, vi is also hi. Around 180. Also found higher levels of zinc and prosperous, without having to pay for the higher cost of Redline and RP

I love high levels of prosperous. Go for as high as you can get.


1994 BMW 530i, 241K
1996 Honda Accord, 267K
1999 Toyota Sienna, 410K
2000 Toyota ECHO, 280K
Re: Amsoil and light weight oil [Re: Bullwinkle007] #4674327
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As long as you understand that this is all just speculation and your engine may or may not last longer on the thicker oil, then more power to you.

In reality modern engines that have been maintained last so long that none of this really matters so you might as well have fun. But I wouldn't condemn a thinner oil as being inadequate for your uses.


Mine: 2019 Chevy spark 1.4 Non-turbo
Mobil 1 0w20 AFE
ACDelco UPF64R

Wife's: 2018 Chevy spark 1.4 Non-turbo
Mobil 1 0w20 AFE
ACDelco UPF64R
Re: Amsoil and light weight oil [Re: Bullwinkle007] #4674352
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10W60 and a bottle or two of STP for the win.


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Re: Amsoil and light weight oil [Re: Bullwinkle007] #4674358
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The thread title shows a lack of understanding of the issue.


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Re: Amsoil and light weight oil [Re: farrarfan1] #4674360
02/22/18 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted By: farrarfan1
10W60 and a bottle or two of STP for the win.


Don't you mean Lucas instead of STP, being in Indiana and all????


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Re: Amsoil and light weight oil [Re: Virtus_Probi] #4674376
02/22/18 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted By: Virtus_Probi
Originally Posted By: farrarfan1
10W60 and a bottle or two of STP for the win.


Don't you mean Lucas instead of STP, being in Indiana and all????


My bad.If Lucas is thicker than STP then it would be the better choice for an anti-CAFE blend.


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