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Low Noise Oil #4673788
02/21/18 08:55 PM
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Ducked Offline OP
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Not seen or heard of this "stealth" property being specifically advertised before, though it might have been. Niche market for private detectives, perhaps "As used by Phillip Marlowe"?

Its a 5W50. Is there any property apart from the high temp viscosity that would contribute to noise reduction?



Just curious, not interested in buying it, since its too wide a range and I don't particularly want to reduce my engine noise. I do use CPC stuff, but this is over twice as expensive as the 15W40, the price of silence.


Re: Low Noise Oil [Re: Ducked] #4673792
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I wouldn’t trust that brand...never heard of it. How long have you been using it?
Edit: sorry didn’t realize your location.

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Re: Low Noise Oil [Re: Ducked] #4673794
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I like the "Extra Special Motor Oil" part.

Re: Low Noise Oil [Re: Ducked] #4673807
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The "standard low-noise motor oil" in the United States:

grin LOL grin2 crackmeup

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Re: Low Noise Oil [Re: das_peikko] #4673832
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Re: Low Noise Oil [Re: pda1122] #4673918
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Originally Posted By: pda1122
I wouldn’t trust that brand...never heard of it. How long have you been using it?
Edit: sorry didn’t realize your location.


Understood. I bought the SAE 40 for use in a motorcycle, and ended up using it in the car along with Delvac MX 15W40 after an oil leak.The Delvac is no longer available and CPC seems to be the only SJ oil readily obtainable now.

When that's gone I'll probably use Castrol "Go" 20W40 motorcycle oil, if it (and I, and the car) is/are still around. Made in Thailand.




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Re: Low Noise Oil [Re: das_peikko] #4673923
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Originally Posted By: das_peikko
I like the "Extra Special Motor Oil" part.


Never heard of it? That makes it extra special.

Re: Low Noise Oil [Re: Ducked] #4673924
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Well the question is; Does it work to make your car quieter ...

They can claim anything they want. But, does it work?


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Re: Low Noise Oil [Re: Ducked] #4673971
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How does Lucas Oil Stabilizer still sell? I only used Hyper-Lube Red Bottle with Jobaba to prime my oil filters long ago. Took 5 oci to use bottle. Big Lots special at 2.00qt, bought 5 qts.


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Re: Low Noise Oil [Re: Ducked] #4674077
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Depending on the engine, I can see 5w-50 causing a lot of top end noise .... Particularly in something pushrod with a weak oil pump.


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Re: Low Noise Oil [Re: BrocLuno] #4674110
02/22/18 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted By: BrocLuno
Well the question is; Does it work to make your car quieter ...

They can claim anything they want. But, does it work?


Well, its a question, but not a very interesting one, unless you care about engine noise per se, which I don't.

More interesting questions, IMO, would be:-

(a) HOW would/could it work?

I THINK the Lucas stabiliser stuff is either just thick oil or viscosity improver (can't remember which but probably the latter?) That would suggest any sound reduction is simply a function of viscosity. Can't think of much else. Density? Don't put any anti-foam in so it forms a sound-insulating bubbles? (bad for lubrication though) Sound insulating nano-particles? (finely grround eggboxes/fullerenes). Maybe un-extended VII have some special sound-deadening properties due to (total?) internal reflection/absorbance of sound (maybe not).

If it IS just a viscosity effect you would think the 20W50 at less than half the price would be about as good (OK, the 50 is a range. I don't know the actual viscosities).

(b) Is engine noise a proxy for something more meaningful? Specifically, is it a proxy for wear? If it is (and I think it might be to some extent) then engine noise could be an indicator of an oils effectiveness which would in principle be measurable, and a whole new OCD arena trembles before the analytical power of the smartphone app.

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Re: Low Noise Oil [Re: Ducked] #4674157
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Lucas is heavy , detergentless oil.

Yes, putting a quart of 20w-50 would be entirely more beneficial than lucas.


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Re: Low Noise Oil [Re: Miller88] #4674168
02/22/18 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted By: Miller88
Lucas is heavy , detergentless oil.

Yes, putting a quart of 20w-50 would be entirely more beneficial than lucas.


"putting a quart of 20w-50" in what?

I was comparing the CPC low noise 5W50 stuff pictured above with the CPC 20W50 stuff pictured above, because thats a more relevent comparison, and because I know nothing about Lucas. I suppose it was a bit ambiguous, though.

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Re: Low Noise Oil [Re: Ducked] #4674189
02/22/18 10:54 AM
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Putting a quart of 20w-50 would be better than a quart of lucas


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Re: Low Noise Oil [Re: Ducked] #4674390
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Are you guys just figuring out that all the ridiculous claims oil makers make are complete nonsense? Three basic grades of motor oil, they are light, medium and heavy.

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