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1998 Chevy 1500 engine replaced #4672799
02/21/18 08:18 AM
02/21/18 08:18 AM
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RF4guy Offline OP
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I recently had the 5.0 ltr motor in my 1998 Chevy pick-up replaced. The original engine had almost 190K miles on it and I replaced it with a used motor with 83K miles on it. Mechanic replaced all the gaskets and it runs well, but the valves seem to tap a lot when I first start it up and before its warm. Any ideas on why its doing this and how to stop it?

Re: 1998 Chevy 1500 engine replaced [Re: RF4guy] #4672811
02/21/18 08:29 AM
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Can you put on a pressure gauge? I'm wondering if it's slow to pump oil up to pressure. I presume it got an oil change when this was installed?

I forget, can valve lash on these be checked cold? I know they are hydraulic lifters, so they pump up; but I'm wondering if just pulling the covers and checking lash would be wise.


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Re: 1998 Chevy 1500 engine replaced [Re: RF4guy] #4672825
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I'd be more worried if the valves were making noise when it's warm. It's probably been sitting for a while so give it time. I'd do a short 2000 mile oil change and then switch to a high mileage oil that readily available. Big picture - quiet and runs well when warm is good.


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Re: 1998 Chevy 1500 engine replaced [Re: RF4guy] #4672827
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Does this year engine have an adjustable valve train?

Re: 1998 Chevy 1500 engine replaced [Re: RF4guy] #4672830
02/21/18 08:42 AM
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Hopefully Si permatex didn't migrate to the pickup screen.

Flat tappet cam or roller? in a truck?

Unless its a Delco or Champ non e-core filter, Ive had noise on my 4.3.

You should have an OP gauge correct? if its up to pressure quickly ( 1-2 seconds) I would check the lifter preload (incorrectly: LASH) if its a flat tappet cam. I usually preload them 1/4 turn hot. Better a bit of cold tick than a hot no seat.


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Re: 1998 Chevy 1500 engine replaced [Re: RF4guy] #4672956
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Wow, thanks guys for all thoose quick responses, so I'll try to answer. The company in Texas I bought the motor from said it was pressure tested and is guaranteed for a year. Fresh oil was put in when it was installed, and I'm not sure about the more technical questions...I change oil on my vehicles, plugs and wires when needed, and occasionally more in depth repairs out of necessity, but I'm not a mechanic. I think I'll try the oil change with some high mileage oil.

Re: 1998 Chevy 1500 engine replaced [Re: RF4guy] #4672970
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It's very likely the filter. The Anti-drain-back valve is not sealing 100%. Go get a Napa Gold filter for it (w known good ADBV) and just change the filter. Top off with 1 qt 15W-40 Delo 400 and see what it does.

My bet, stone quiet when you start it up laugh


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Re: 1998 Chevy 1500 engine replaced [Re: RF4guy] #4672983
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RF4guy Offline OP
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Thanks BrocLuno. Where is that valve located? Is it hard to get to?

Re: 1998 Chevy 1500 engine replaced [Re: RF4guy] #4672990
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It is inside the oil filter. Thus, replace the oil filter. The ADBV is a check valve that keeps the oil from flowing backwards and draining out of the engine passages while the engine is stopped.

Re: 1998 Chevy 1500 engine replaced [Re: RF4guy] #4672994
02/21/18 10:16 AM
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RF4guy Offline OP
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Disregard....I just re-read your response...I'll get a better oil filter.

Re: 1998 Chevy 1500 engine replaced [Re: RF4guy] #4672998
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RF4guy Offline OP
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Thanks...I appreciate the advice...Not sure exactly what filter is on there now, but I'll get a better quality filter.

Re: 1998 Chevy 1500 engine replaced [Re: RF4guy] #4673345
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I'm not exactly sure if the 5.0 and the 5.7 were exactly the same those years, but I had a Vortec 350 in my 98 Yukon. It had hydraulic roller lifters. I don't ever remember them being noisy and I always used Baldwin filters on that engine. When it had a lot, like 175,000 miles or so, I replaced the timing chain and it went back to running perfectly again. I sold that truck to my brother and I think he ran it almost to 290,000 miles before selling it off.
It's been a while since I wrenched on one of those last but I think the rockers are adjustable. They were self aligning so not cross compatible with old school chevy rockers.

I would have popped the pan off any used engine and probably put a timing chain and oil pump in it before putting it in my truck, but I'm silly like that. I agree with the guys before, try a good quality filter and see if that quiets it.

Re: 1998 Chevy 1500 engine replaced [Re: RF4guy] #4674292
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Going to try and take care of it this weekend. I'll let everyone know how it goes and thanks again for all the advice.

Re: 1998 Chevy 1500 engine replaced [Re: RF4guy] #4674561
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I have a 2000 K2500 5.7L with 227k miles that has a cold-start tick which I've assumed was piston slap. It goes away after about 15sec, but I never had a clear answer on whether that was just the LS series small blocks that did that or if it also occurred with the gen1. It's a smooth-runner when warm, so I've not thought much about it. I'll check back here in the near future for an update cool
Warm Regards,
Jordan


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Re: 1998 Chevy 1500 engine replaced [Re: RF4guy] #4675916
02/23/18 09:02 PM
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I've not heard of piston slap being common on the small blocks like it is in the LS engines.

If it will help, here's the valve adjustment instructions for your truck.



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Last edited by Alex_V; 02/23/18 09:05 PM.

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