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Teflon Lubricant #4672519
02/20/18 09:39 PM
02/20/18 09:39 PM
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SE British Columbia, Canada
Snagglefoot Offline OP
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Ever since the patent for Teflon ran out (Trade name for PTFE), manufacturers have been making lubes with PTFE, giving it their own trade name. Here is one from Liquid Wrench. (Done incognito at a Walmart in Canada.).






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Re: Teflon Lubricant [Re: Snagglefoot] #4672531
02/20/18 09:46 PM
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*now contaminated with fluoropolymer

Thank you DuPont/Chemours!


Scambling for solutions is a hopelessly futile endeavour and potentially dangerous, without first coming to a solid, personal understanding of the problem. Beware riding the ideological hobby horse.
Re: Teflon Lubricant [Re: Snagglefoot] #4680824
02/28/18 05:23 PM
02/28/18 05:23 PM
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PTFE or Teflon is a solid, as in sand. Fail to see how it does anything. Your cheap cooking pans, you know the ones you throw away every six months? The metal has to be heated at around 800 degrees so the solid PTFE will flow and stick. Complete waste of time.

slomo

Re: Teflon Lubricant [Re: slomo] #4680827
02/28/18 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted By: slomo
PTFE or Teflon is a solid, as in sand. Fail to see how it does anything. Your cheap cooking pans, you know the ones you throw away every six months? The metal has to be heated at around 800 degrees so the solid PTFE will flow and stick. Complete waste of time.

slomo

That is not how it works. PTFE never flows, in fact it decomposes below the melting point. And furthermore it will not stick to anything without extensive surface preparation and modification beforehand. In this application the material remains a sold and the particles act as a lubricant in the solid state. Much like graphite or molybdenum disulfide.


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Re: Teflon Lubricant [Re: Snagglefoot] #4681182
03/01/18 02:01 AM
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In greases, it's very effective...when it's needed. Doesn't stain black like MoS2 or Graphite.

I've got an old tin of slick 50 teflon lube, and things like sliding screen door lower solid runners it works well. If it can get into hinges, they stay squeak free for longer.

When I commissioned the MDF factory back in the late 90s, the predescessor of this
https://www.klueber.com/ecomaXL/get_blob.php?name=Kluber-Klubertemp-GR-AR-555-FINAL-1.pdf

Was a serious grease...especially when Wynns brought their "one armed bandit" onto site to try to influence the purchasing staff.

Re: Teflon Lubricant [Re: Snagglefoot] #4681187
03/01/18 02:52 AM
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The common brands like Liquid wrench, 3-in-1, CRC, ETC almost always contain too much solvent to really be good lubricants; regardless of what other additives they have in them.

If you really want a good teflon fortified lubricant, try super lube. It comes in oil, grease and aerosol. Tri-flow is pretty good too but the flash point is low so it doesn't do well on things that get hot.

All this being said, there are much better lubricants out there that don't rely on teflon. I am not saying teflon is bad but there are plenty of other powerful lubricants that don't use it.


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Re: Teflon Lubricant [Re: Shannow] #4682334
03/02/18 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted By: Shannow
In greases, it's very effective...when it's needed. Doesn't stain black like MoS2 or Graphite.

I've got an old tin of slick 50 teflon lube, and things like sliding screen door lower solid runners it works well. If it can get into hinges, they stay squeak free for longer.

When I commissioned the MDF factory back in the late 90s, the predescessor of this
https://www.klueber.com/ecomaXL/get_blob.php?name=Kluber-Klubertemp-GR-AR-555-FINAL-1.pdf

Was a serious grease...especially when Wynns brought their "one armed bandit" onto site to try to influence the purchasing staff.



How about when it's mixed with oil? I was using white lithium grease on my pickup doors but holy cow what a mess it made, don't get me wrong it kept them working nice and smooth for a while but when the drivers door started moaning a couple weeks ago I looked closer and I couldn't believe all the dirt that grease attracted. I hit them with some WD40 to get them cleaned up but now I need to put some lube on them so I bought some 3-in-1 with PTFE.


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Re: Teflon Lubricant [Re: Snagglefoot] #4690065
03/09/18 10:07 PM
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SE British Columbia, Canada
Snagglefoot Offline OP
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Here is what GM recommends for door locks and hinges.



If you want the job done right......do it yourself.
Re: Teflon Lubricant [Re: AMC] #4709062
03/27/18 09:49 PM
03/27/18 09:49 PM
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Albury, NSW
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Originally Posted By: AMC
Tri-flow is pretty good too but the flash point is low so it doesn't do well on things that get hot.


Which is why it tends to have a good following in the bicycle community.

Pretty good chain lube and general purpose bicycle lube. Has a unique smell wink

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Re: Teflon Lubricant [Re: Snagglefoot] #4711241
03/30/18 07:52 AM
03/30/18 07:52 AM
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West Michigan
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Triflow definitely works great (as a wet lube but thats a different discussion) for bicycle applications. It was our go-to back when I was a shop rat and I still use it for a great many bike and non-bike applications. That said I'm quite sure there are many alternatives that work just a well if you prefer something different!

What I'm curious about, and I figure it fits here, is the colloid ptfe in something like Breakfree CLP. How does this compare to a non-ptfe formula (like, i dunno, Microil) or a solid PTFE formula like superlube or triflow?


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Re: Teflon Lubricant [Re: Snagglefoot] #4711482
03/30/18 11:05 AM
03/30/18 11:05 AM
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Teflon makes for a decent thickener for greases:

https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ub...rt_I#Post729336


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Re: Teflon Lubricant [Re: Snagglefoot] #4765399
05/22/18 07:12 PM
05/22/18 07:12 PM
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NY
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I don't follow. what is it your trying to say?

PTFE stands for polytetrafluoroethylene. Teflon is the trade name owned by DuPont.


Yes,
there's numerous chemical companies putting out lube's with PTFE.


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Re: Teflon Lubricant [Re: Snagglefoot] #4765409
05/22/18 07:19 PM
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this here is great stuff.

Actually all blaster products are GREAT!


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Re: Teflon Lubricant [Re: Snagglefoot] #4766364
05/23/18 08:40 PM
05/23/18 08:40 PM
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The Motor City
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The auto industry is using PTFE as a sold lubricant to replace lead formulated lubes in certain areas.

Re: Teflon Lubricant [Re: MolaKule] #4791234
06/19/18 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted By: MolaKule
Teflon makes for a decent thickener for greases:

https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ub...rt_I#Post729336


PTFE is an inefficient thickener, but with useful properties for some application. Often used with PFPE base oils (like Chemours Krytox grease).

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