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Ford specifications on front and rear lube #4672070
02/20/18 04:35 PM
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Hi folks. On my 2010 mountaineer 4.0 AWD ford spec the rear diff 75w140 Synthetic and for the front 75w90 conventional. Gear ratio is 3.55 open front and rear. What is your opinion on why ford would spec two different weight lubes. Thank you.


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Re: Ford specifications on front and rear lube [Re: littleant] #4672082
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My only guess would be a class 3/4 tow package. No other reasons come to mind why a heavy lube like that would be needed in a grocery hauler.


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Re: Ford specifications on front and rear lube [Re: littleant] #4672085
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Replacement fluids could be:

Rear Amsoil SVG 75W140

https://www.amsoil.com/lit/databulletins/g2043.pdf


Front Amsoil LL 75W90

https://www.amsoil.com/lit/databulletins/g2042.pdf

Last edited by MolaKule; 02/20/18 04:52 PM.

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Re: Ford specifications on front and rear lube [Re: MolaKule] #4672089
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Originally Posted By: MolaKule
Replacement fluids could be:

Rear Amsoil SVG 75W140

https://www.amsoil.com/lit/databulletins/g2043.pdf


Front Amsoil SVG 75W90

https://www.amsoil.com/lit/databulletins/g2042.pdf
Yes; and if I may suggest 75W-110 for the front axle smile


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Re: Ford specifications on front and rear lube [Re: littleant] #4672252
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Sport Trac rear differential?
Take a peek at the rear axle. The Sport Trac (Limited Slip?)
will have a tag on it stating Syn 75w140.
Some have a 1/2" drive fill/drain plug vs 3/8" and no drain.
If it's a Sport Trac diff, change the fluid.
I'd bet it's black in color.

Re: Ford specifications on front and rear lube [Re: littleant] #4672434
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Originally Posted By: littleant
Hi folks. On my 2010 mountaineer 4.0 AWD ford spec the rear diff 75w140 Synthetic and for the front 75w90 conventional. Gear ratio is 3.55 open front and rear. What is your opinion on why ford would spec two different weight lubes. Thank you.


Are you certain other models require the same fluid for front and rear? Maybe this is normal.


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Re: Ford specifications on front and rear lube [Re: littleant] #4672444
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I believe ford has this split spec for the front and rear diff on most SUV AWD. Dyusik yes it does have tow package with the small receiver hitch (1 1/4 or 1 1/2


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Re: Ford specifications on front and rear lube [Re: littleant] #4672484
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Originally Posted By: littleant
Hi folks. On my 2010 mountaineer 4.0 AWD ford spec the rear diff 75w140 Synthetic and for the front 75w90 conventional. Gear ratio is 3.55 open front and rear. What is your opinion on why ford would spec two different weight lubes. Thank you.

Rear axle typically carries higher load than front axle.
Ford engineer specifies 75W140 for rear axle stronger wear protection ....... and had his way ...
over fellow finance guy albeit at the 'expense' of CAFE credit, where applicable.

Re: Ford specifications on front and rear lube [Re: littleant] #4672486
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Itís such a small quantity and you donít change very often, so just get what they recommend. Itís been too many years since I worked with Ford AWDs, but there may be a couple reasons for the lighter weight. If the system is on-demand or significantly rear-biased, the front axle will not produce as much heat. If it is demand-based, likely the only time it will truly be working all the time is in the snow, and the temps are cold enough the lower weight wonít impede fluid life. The rear axle may be doing the brunt of the work all the time, including high temp summers. Thatís my take. Itís much easier when your AWD is 50/50 all the time, rain sleet or snow. Both my AWD transaxle and rear axle take 75w90. Easy peasy!

Re: Ford specifications on front and rear lube [Re: littleant] #4672714
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Oh I plan on following the Ford spec. I believe the AWD drive on this vehicle is a 70-30 split but can reach 50-50. Thanks everyone good points.


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Re: Ford specifications on front and rear lube [Re: littleant] #4676342
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Also be aware there is nothing like a 75w90 conventional. Don't lose sleep and use synthetic.


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Re: Ford specifications on front and rear lube [Re: MolaKule] #4678680
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Originally Posted By: MolaKule
Replacement fluids could be:

Rear Amsoil SVG 75W140

https://www.amsoil.com/lit/databulletins/g2043.pdf


Front Amsoil LL 75W90

https://www.amsoil.com/lit/databulletins/g2042.pdf


Why Amsoil LL 75W90 (not Amsoil Severe gear 75W90) in front axle?

Last edited by Izb; 02/26/18 01:14 PM.

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