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#4671817 - 02/20/18 11:34 AM Looking to buy a new car
JeepWJ19 Offline


Registered: 09/09/15
Posts: 932
Loc: PENNSYLVANIA
Howdy again smile

Commuting 60 miles a day on a 2.5" lifted heavy WJ with bigger tires and a 4.0 is getting sad mpgs (obligatory). So I'm in search of a commuter car while the ol' pig is a weekend warrior and snow blazer.

My main criteria is reliability and simplicity. No older than 5 years, and less than 50k miles.
1. No direct injection
2. No CVT or DTC transmissions
3. No turbos or superchargers

Found a couple makes and models that met the criteria, this Saturday I'm going to be doing a test drive of a clean 2014 Ford Fusion SE 2.5L with regular 6 speed automatic transmission.

I've read these cars had transmission issues in '11-'12 years so I believe that won't be an issue. Supposedly read the 2.5 can get a knocking/tapping sound? Is that true?

Any other suggestions on what cars to get?

Thanks!
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#4671824 - 02/20/18 11:38 AM Re: Looking to buy a new car [Re: JeepWJ19]
jeepman3071 Offline


Registered: 04/15/10
Posts: 4216
Loc: Storrs, Connecticut
Fusion would be a good choice. 2013 was also the last year the Civic had the normal 5 speed auto. My sister picked up a 2013 VW Jetta with the 2.5L 5 cylinder. The car has a nice interior and drives pretty well. Shes averaging 33 mpg and she doesn't have a light foot.
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#4671833 - 02/20/18 11:47 AM Re: Looking to buy a new car [Re: JeepWJ19]
SirTanon Offline


Registered: 06/23/14
Posts: 2152
Loc: Phoenix, Arizona - USA
Dunno why you're ruling out CVT transmissions.. but okay. Guess that rules out the Nissan Altima, which, IMHO, is a great car. My 2014 is terrific, and gets 38+ MPG highway.

The Fusion would be a good choice, though. They look good, get decent fuel economy, and are comfortable. The 2.5 is just a bulletproof engine, too.

You mentioned:
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I've read these cars had transmission issues in '11-'12 years so I believe that won't be an issue. Supposedly read the 2.5 can get a knocking/tapping sound? Is that true?


The transmission you're referring to is the 6F35 trans, which has had a bit of a reputation for being.. touchy.. but in all honesty is a pretty darn good trans. It's the same transmission that i have in my 2010 Fusion, and it's still ticking. The car is a bit over 249,000 miles now, with the factory engine and trans still in it, and still gets me safely my 110 miles back and forth to work every day.

The 6F35 is still in use in the Fusion, even after 2012, so it's what would be in that 2014 you're looking at it. Ford has tweaked it and updated the code though, so you'll be getting a mature version.
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#4671836 - 02/20/18 11:49 AM Re: Looking to buy a new car [Re: JeepWJ19]
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Registered: 03/09/16
Posts: 832
Loc: PA,US
What about a low miles crown vic? reliable, cheap to run/repair, comfy for long trips. RWD but it sounds like your jeep could do winter duty. A modern 4 banger would get better mileage, but all highway the 4.6 would still do mid 20s.
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#4671838 - 02/20/18 11:49 AM Re: Looking to buy a new car [Re: JeepWJ19]
JTK Offline


Registered: 08/14/03
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Loc: Buffalo, NY
Used 4-dr, FWD sedans seem to be the sweet spot in terms of very economical used buys. I would agree that the Fusion is a good one. IMO, Ford tried to compete with the Camry in this segment. Fusions seem to be great used cars. Easy trans drain/fills, fairly easy DIY maintenance in general.
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#4671839 - 02/20/18 11:51 AM Re: Looking to buy a new car [Re: JeepWJ19]
BrocLuno Offline


Registered: 09/06/15
Posts: 5512
Loc: Kalifornia Kollective
V6 Fusion SE. I'd go outside the rust belt and buy one, then drive it home. Have a little extra undercoating done and commute away smile
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#4671843 - 02/20/18 11:54 AM Re: Looking to buy a new car [Re: HemiHawk]
JLTD Offline


Registered: 12/15/17
Posts: 645
Loc: US
Originally Posted By: HemiHawk
What about a low miles crown vic? reliable, cheap to run/repair, comfy for long trips. RWD but it sounds like your jeep could do winter duty. A modern 4 banger would get better mileage, but all highway the 4.6 would still do mid 20s.


Not a bad idea but more than 5 years old.

I thought of a Toyota RAV4.
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#4671847 - 02/20/18 11:59 AM Re: Looking to buy a new car [Re: JLTD]
HemiHawk Offline


Registered: 03/09/16
Posts: 832
Loc: PA,US
Originally Posted By: JLTD
Originally Posted By: HemiHawk
What about a low miles crown vic? reliable, cheap to run/repair, comfy for long trips. RWD but it sounds like your jeep could do winter duty. A modern 4 banger would get better mileage, but all highway the 4.6 would still do mid 20s.


Not a bad idea but more than 5 years old.

I thought of a Toyota RAV4.


darn you're right!
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#4671850 - 02/20/18 12:02 PM Re: Looking to buy a new car [Re: JeepWJ19]
JustN89 Offline


Registered: 06/27/17
Posts: 463
Loc: DFW
Honestly, I'd probably rule out a used car with a CVT too, but under 50k miles should be safe.just make sure to do a drain and fill.

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#4671860 - 02/20/18 12:12 PM Re: Looking to buy a new car [Re: JeepWJ19]
Kestas Offline



Registered: 06/04/02
Posts: 12325
Loc: The Motor City
Sit down and do the math on how much money you'd save by buying a more efficient vehicle, and see if it's worth it to you. It may be an eye opener on how little you'd save each year... or it may show a big savings. Either way, it will lay the framework of your venture.

I did that during the last bubble of $4/gal and found it was cheaper to keep my gas-pig Mercury Marquis.

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#4671871 - 02/20/18 12:18 PM Re: Looking to buy a new car [Re: JeepWJ19]
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Registered: 12/24/11
Posts: 4039
Loc: North Carolina
What the price range? Pick up a nice Boxster! 30mpg top down commuter car.
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#4671872 - 02/20/18 12:18 PM Re: Looking to buy a new car [Re: JeepWJ19]
PandaBear Offline


Registered: 08/05/02
Posts: 14212
Loc: Silicon Valley
Snow belt, less than 5 years and 50k miles, assuming good fuel economy but not sure about budget.

Do you have EV charging at work (and is it free to charge)? If so a used Leaf would be the best bargain (i.e. around 6k-13k). What about a Prius? or Elantra, Cruze, Focus, etc?
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#4671882 - 02/20/18 12:25 PM Re: Looking to buy a new car [Re: rooflessVW]
Wolf359 Online   content


Registered: 04/27/12
Posts: 4746
Loc: MA
Originally Posted By: rooflessVW
What the price range? Pick up a nice Boxster! 30mpg top down commuter car.


Yeah, lots of cars in that range. Lexus, Acura, BMW, Audi, MB.

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#4671883 - 02/20/18 12:25 PM Re: Looking to buy a new car [Re: JeepWJ19]
JeepWJ19 Offline


Registered: 09/09/15
Posts: 932
Loc: PENNSYLVANIA
Price range is $15k max.
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#4671894 - 02/20/18 12:33 PM Re: Looking to buy a new car [Re: HemiHawk]
CKN Offline


Registered: 10/14/14
Posts: 3689
Loc: Utah
Originally Posted By: HemiHawk
What about a low miles crown vic? reliable, cheap to run/repair, comfy for long trips. RWD but it sounds like your jeep could do winter duty. A modern 4 banger would get better mileage, but all highway the 4.6 would still do mid 20s.



This is the only forum where someone is looking to buy A NEW CAR and a fifteen year old dinosaur is recommended. Yep-buy one and equip it with Michelins and your "golden".

Unbelievable.....


Edited by CKN (02/20/18 12:34 PM)

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