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Looking to buy a new car #4671817
02/20/18 12:34 PM
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JeepWJ19 Offline OP
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Howdy again smile

Commuting 60 miles a day on a 2.5" lifted heavy WJ with bigger tires and a 4.0 is getting sad mpgs (obligatory). So I'm in search of a commuter car while the ol' pig is a weekend warrior and snow blazer.

My main criteria is reliability and simplicity. No older than 5 years, and less than 50k miles.
1. No direct injection
2. No CVT or DTC transmissions
3. No turbos or superchargers

Found a couple makes and models that met the criteria, this Saturday I'm going to be doing a test drive of a clean 2014 Ford Fusion SE 2.5L with regular 6 speed automatic transmission.

I've read these cars had transmission issues in '11-'12 years so I believe that won't be an issue. Supposedly read the 2.5 can get a knocking/tapping sound? Is that true?

Any other suggestions on what cars to get?

Thanks!


2002 Jeep WJ 4.0 | Mobil 1 HM 5w30 |
TG8A | 2.5" lift | 148k miles

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Re: Looking to buy a new car [Re: JeepWJ19] #4671824
02/20/18 12:38 PM
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Fusion would be a good choice. 2013 was also the last year the Civic had the normal 5 speed auto. My sister picked up a 2013 VW Jetta with the 2.5L 5 cylinder. The car has a nice interior and drives pretty well. Shes averaging 33 mpg and she doesn't have a light foot.


2000 Jeep Cherokee 4.0L (181k) - Pennzoil 10w30, Napa Gold 1516, Magnefine trans filter
2009 BMW 328i (33k) - Castrol Edge Euro 0w40, MANN HU816X
Re: Looking to buy a new car [Re: JeepWJ19] #4671833
02/20/18 12:47 PM
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Dunno why you're ruling out CVT transmissions.. but okay. Guess that rules out the Nissan Altima, which, IMHO, is a great car. My 2014 is terrific, and gets 38+ MPG highway.

The Fusion would be a good choice, though. They look good, get decent fuel economy, and are comfortable. The 2.5 is just a bulletproof engine, too.

You mentioned:
Quote:

I've read these cars had transmission issues in '11-'12 years so I believe that won't be an issue. Supposedly read the 2.5 can get a knocking/tapping sound? Is that true?


The transmission you're referring to is the 6F35 trans, which has had a bit of a reputation for being.. touchy.. but in all honesty is a pretty darn good trans. It's the same transmission that i have in my 2010 Fusion, and it's still ticking. The car is a bit over 249,000 miles now, with the factory engine and trans still in it, and still gets me safely my 110 miles back and forth to work every day.

The 6F35 is still in use in the Fusion, even after 2012, so it's what would be in that 2014 you're looking at it. Ford has tweaked it and updated the code though, so you'll be getting a mature version.


2010 Ford Fusion SE - 2.5 liter/6F35 Trans - 262,000mi
2014 Nissan Altima SL - 2.5 liter/CVT - 57,000mi
Re: Looking to buy a new car [Re: JeepWJ19] #4671836
02/20/18 12:49 PM
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What about a low miles crown vic? reliable, cheap to run/repair, comfy for long trips. RWD but it sounds like your jeep could do winter duty. A modern 4 banger would get better mileage, but all highway the 4.6 would still do mid 20s.


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Re: Looking to buy a new car [Re: JeepWJ19] #4671838
02/20/18 12:49 PM
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Used 4-dr, FWD sedans seem to be the sweet spot in terms of very economical used buys. I would agree that the Fusion is a good one. IMO, Ford tried to compete with the Camry in this segment. Fusions seem to be great used cars. Easy trans drain/fills, fairly easy DIY maintenance in general.


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Re: Looking to buy a new car [Re: JeepWJ19] #4671839
02/20/18 12:51 PM
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V6 Fusion SE. I'd go outside the rust belt and buy one, then drive it home. Have a little extra undercoating done and commute away smile


Formerly in marine engineering. In an earlier life I owned my own petroleum tank truck, and hauled for the majors and independent's.
Re: Looking to buy a new car [Re: HemiHawk] #4671843
02/20/18 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted By: HemiHawk
What about a low miles crown vic? reliable, cheap to run/repair, comfy for long trips. RWD but it sounds like your jeep could do winter duty. A modern 4 banger would get better mileage, but all highway the 4.6 would still do mid 20s.


Not a bad idea but more than 5 years old.

I thought of a Toyota RAV4.


I'm a thickie; but a 20 has its place.

Currently using AMSOIL

Hers: 2008 Jeep Liberty 138k, SS 5w30/Amsoil

His: 2015 4Runner 41k, OE 5w20/Wix

Re: Looking to buy a new car [Re: JLTD] #4671847
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Originally Posted By: JLTD
Originally Posted By: HemiHawk
What about a low miles crown vic? reliable, cheap to run/repair, comfy for long trips. RWD but it sounds like your jeep could do winter duty. A modern 4 banger would get better mileage, but all highway the 4.6 would still do mid 20s.


Not a bad idea but more than 5 years old.

I thought of a Toyota RAV4.


darn you're right!


2016 Nissan Frontier Pro4x
2017 VW GTI sport
1995 Mustang GTS
Re: Looking to buy a new car [Re: JeepWJ19] #4671850
02/20/18 01:02 PM
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Honestly, I'd probably rule out a used car with a CVT too, but under 50k miles should be safe.just make sure to do a drain and fill.

Re: Looking to buy a new car [Re: JeepWJ19] #4671860
02/20/18 01:12 PM
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Sit down and do the math on how much money you'd save by buying a more efficient vehicle, and see if it's worth it to you. It may be an eye opener on how little you'd save each year... or it may show a big savings. Either way, it will lay the framework of your venture.

I did that during the last bubble of $4/gal and found it was cheaper to keep my gas-pig Mercury Marquis.

Re: Looking to buy a new car [Re: JeepWJ19] #4671871
02/20/18 01:18 PM
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What the price range? Pick up a nice Boxster! 30mpg top down commuter car.


"Zed's dead baby, Zed's dead."
Re: Looking to buy a new car [Re: JeepWJ19] #4671872
02/20/18 01:18 PM
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Snow belt, less than 5 years and 50k miles, assuming good fuel economy but not sure about budget.

Do you have EV charging at work (and is it free to charge)? If so a used Leaf would be the best bargain (i.e. around 6k-13k). What about a Prius? or Elantra, Cruze, Focus, etc?


"You keep asking questions PandaBear and you'll end up a vegetarian like my wife" - Camu Mahubah
Re: Looking to buy a new car [Re: rooflessVW] #4671882
02/20/18 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted By: rooflessVW
What the price range? Pick up a nice Boxster! 30mpg top down commuter car.


Yeah, lots of cars in that range. Lexus, Acura, BMW, Audi, MB.

Re: Looking to buy a new car [Re: JeepWJ19] #4671883
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Price range is $15k max.


2002 Jeep WJ 4.0 | Mobil 1 HM 5w30 |
TG8A | 2.5" lift | 148k miles

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Re: Looking to buy a new car [Re: HemiHawk] #4671894
02/20/18 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted By: HemiHawk
What about a low miles crown vic? reliable, cheap to run/repair, comfy for long trips. RWD but it sounds like your jeep could do winter duty. A modern 4 banger would get better mileage, but all highway the 4.6 would still do mid 20s.



This is the only forum where someone is looking to buy A NEW CAR and a fifteen year old dinosaur is recommended. Yep-buy one and equip it with Michelins and your "golden".

Unbelievable.....

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