A few years ago people were posting about how GM was ripping people off with their Mickey Mouse insignificant spec. Wow how times have changed.
M1 0w30 IS DEXOS 1 APPROVED
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Here's a PDS from 9-2017 for those interested.
https://www.mobil.com/english-us/passenger-vehicle-lube/pds/glxxmobil-1-0w30
Of the 2 in the original photo, which one is the newer jug?
https://www.mobil.com/english-us/passenger-vehicle-lube/pds/glxxmobil-1-0w30
Of the 2 in the original photo, which one is the newer jug?
I was just thinking the same thing. I guess people have realized that it's a pretty good spec.
Originally Posted By: Trav
A few years ago people were posting about how GM was ripping people off with their Mickey Mouse insignificant spec. Wow how times have changed.
Originally Posted By: Trav
A few years ago people were posting about how GM was ripping people off with their Mickey Mouse insignificant spec. Wow how times have changed.
Green cap is older with date of 11016j14a and DEXOS license #GB1c1008015
Date on silver cap M1 0w30 and its jug on left
Green cap m1
Date on silver cap M1 0w30 and its jug on left
Green cap m1
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OK, so they are both first generation dexos1. And the green cap one is older than the silver cap one.
Notably, for Mobil1 specifically, GM says the first generation dexos1 can be used in 2018 and up GM vehicles. Probably due to M1 having low Ca.
Said it right in my 2018 owners manual.
Notably, for Mobil1 specifically, GM says the first generation dexos1 can be used in 2018 and up GM vehicles. Probably due to M1 having low Ca.
Said it right in my 2018 owners manual.
Originally Posted By: Trav
A few years ago people were posting about how GM was ripping people off with their Mickey Mouse insignificant spec. Wow how times have changed.
Now we help GM get royalties.
A few years ago people were posting about how GM was ripping people off with their Mickey Mouse insignificant spec. Wow how times have changed.
Now we help GM get royalties.
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Regardless they are good caps/seals … just opened box with 2 jugs M1 = came in from Walmart.com and spent two weeks on side (cap down) and not a trace of leakage …
Originally Posted By: Garak
Now we help GM get royalties.
Its not much. GM did put a lot of effort into it. Don't we like tougher specs? The ultimate would be for some oil like Amsoil SS or Mobil1 AP pass all the 229.5 tests in addition to dexos1 Gen2 (except HTHS of course).
Here is the "What-chu-talkin-bout-Willis" video that says it all:
Now we help GM get royalties.
Its not much. GM did put a lot of effort into it. Don't we like tougher specs? The ultimate would be for some oil like Amsoil SS or Mobil1 AP pass all the 229.5 tests in addition to dexos1 Gen2 (except HTHS of course).
Here is the "What-chu-talkin-bout-Willis" video that says it all:
No, it probably isn't much, but people do pay attention to BITOG. Personally, I'd be happy seeing more lubes carry A5/B5 as well.
Originally Posted By: Garak
No, it probably isn't much, but people do pay attention to BITOG. Personally, I'd be happy seeing more lubes carry A5/B5 as well.
Sir: I'm surprised AFE 0w30 is A1/B1 but you know way more than I on this stuff
No, it probably isn't much, but people do pay attention to BITOG. Personally, I'd be happy seeing more lubes carry A5/B5 as well.
Sir: I'm surprised AFE 0w30 is A1/B1 but you know way more than I on this stuff
Originally Posted By: Garak
No, it probably isn't much, but people do pay attention to BITOG. Personally, I'd be happy seeing more lubes carry A5/B5 as well.
No, it probably isn't much, but people do pay attention to BITOG. Personally, I'd be happy seeing more lubes carry A5/B5 as well.
Originally Posted By: car51
Sir: I'm surprised AFE 0w30 is A1/B1 but you know way more than I on this stuff
A1/B1 is discontinued, so it will be obsolete for labeling before long. I suspect that M1 5w-30 and 0w-30 would have little problem with A5/B5, either, at least the A5 side of things. I know Castrol was claiming issues with the B5 side of thing, and Valvoline has complaints about it, too. Then again, we don't see a lot of diesel vehicles in North America simply calling for A5/B5, so the B5 part doesn't mean a lot here.
Sir: I'm surprised AFE 0w30 is A1/B1 but you know way more than I on this stuff
A1/B1 is discontinued, so it will be obsolete for labeling before long. I suspect that M1 5w-30 and 0w-30 would have little problem with A5/B5, either, at least the A5 side of things. I know Castrol was claiming issues with the B5 side of thing, and Valvoline has complaints about it, too. Then again, we don't see a lot of diesel vehicles in North America simply calling for A5/B5, so the B5 part doesn't mean a lot here.
Originally Posted By: Garak
Originally Posted By: Trav
A few years ago people were posting about how GM was ripping people off with their Mickey Mouse insignificant spec. Wow how times have changed.
Now we help GM get royalties.
Yep
Even though it took some years and some of us took heat for accepting it as a good thing back then I am glad people have started to realize its a good/valid spec and worth looking for oils that meet it.
Originally Posted By: Trav
A few years ago people were posting about how GM was ripping people off with their Mickey Mouse insignificant spec. Wow how times have changed.
Now we help GM get royalties.
Yep
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Originally Posted By: Trav
Originally Posted By: Garak
Originally Posted By: Trav
A few years ago people were posting about how GM was ripping people off with their Mickey Mouse insignificant spec. Wow how times have changed.
Now we help GM get royalties.
Yep
Even though it took some years and some of us took heat for accepting it as a good thing back then I am glad people have started to realize its a good/valid spec and worth looking for oils that meet it.
+1
Originally Posted By: Garak
Originally Posted By: Trav
A few years ago people were posting about how GM was ripping people off with their Mickey Mouse insignificant spec. Wow how times have changed.
Now we help GM get royalties.
Yep
+1
Straight from the Mobil MSDS page:
"1-DECENE, HOMOPOLYMER HYDROGENATED
68037-01-4
10 - < 20%
H304
DISTILLATES, HEAVY, C18-50 - BRANCHED, CYCLIC AND LINEAR
848301-69-9
20 - < 30%
H304
SEVERELY HYDROTREATED HEAVY PARAFFINIC DISTILLATE
64742-54-7
30 - < 40%
H304
SOLVENT DEWAXED HEAVY PARAFFINIC DISTILLATE
64742-65-0
1 - < 5%
H304"
-http://www.msds.exxonmobil.com/IntApps/psims/SearchResults.aspx TAB 3
"1-DECENE, HOMOPOLYMER HYDROGENATED
68037-01-4
10 - < 20%
H304
DISTILLATES, HEAVY, C18-50 - BRANCHED, CYCLIC AND LINEAR
848301-69-9
20 - < 30%
H304
SEVERELY HYDROTREATED HEAVY PARAFFINIC DISTILLATE
64742-54-7
30 - < 40%
H304
SOLVENT DEWAXED HEAVY PARAFFINIC DISTILLATE
64742-65-0
1 - < 5%
H304"
-http://www.msds.exxonmobil.com/IntApps/psims/SearchResults.aspx TAB 3
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