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Used oil analisys on Volkswagen Sharan 2.0 170 HP #4671576
02/20/18 07:25 AM
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JorgeMartins Offline OP
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I need some help to interpretate the analisys of the used engine oil from my Used oil analisys on Volkswagen Sharan 2.0 170 HP from 2007. Diesel engine:




I bought this used car with about 142 000 Km.
KM on Engine: 152 388 Km
I donít know the oil brand.
The original engine has 140 HP (103 Kw) but in 2014 the ECU has been reprogrammed to 170 HP.

Re: Used oil analisys on Volkswagen Sharan 2.0 170 HP [Re: JorgeMartins] #4671600
02/20/18 08:12 AM
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Yikes that is worse than the 10k UOA on my '09 TDI. I now only do 7-7.5K OCI now due to TBN depletion and high wear metals.

Did you really need to add 5L of make-up oil? That is bad. My '09 has 120K miles and still uses zero oil between changes.

Maybe that engine has been abused or it has more miles than you think. I'd do a compression check first.

Re: Used oil analisys on Volkswagen Sharan 2.0 170 HP [Re: JorgeMartins] #4671643
02/20/18 09:20 AM
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Do or have a leak down test done on this engine, I suspect the rings have had it given the high iron and oil consumption. 500cl or 500ml?
Don't be surprised if the engine needs a rebuild, in which case go with a good low km used one and ditch the tune.
Is the turbo okay? How much did they increase the boost with the tune?

Last edited by Trav; 02/20/18 09:22 AM.

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Re: Used oil analisys on Volkswagen Sharan 2.0 170 HP [Re: Trav] #4671661
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Originally Posted By: Trav
Do or have a leak down test done on this engine, I suspect the rings have had it given the high iron and oil consumption. 500cl or 500ml?
Don't be surprised if the engine needs a rebuild, in which case go with a good low km used one and ditch the tune.
Is the turbo okay? How much did they increase the boost with the tune?


It says 500cL in the Notes and 5L in the description. Since they are the same volume I'm guessing 5L.

Re: Used oil analisys on Volkswagen Sharan 2.0 170 HP [Re: JorgeMartins] #4671685
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Would the tune increase the iron?


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Re: Used oil analisys on Volkswagen Sharan 2.0 170 HP [Re: JorgeMartins] #4671703
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Re: Used oil analisys on Volkswagen Sharan 2.0 170 HP [Re: CT8] #4671705
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It could lead to increased engine cylinder wear depending on what they did it.


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Re: Used oil analisys on Volkswagen Sharan 2.0 170 HP [Re: CleverUserName] #4671708
02/20/18 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted By: CleverUserName
Originally Posted By: Trav
Do or have a leak down test done on this engine, I suspect the rings have had it given the high iron and oil consumption. 500cl or 500ml?
Don't be surprised if the engine needs a rebuild, in which case go with a good low km used one and ditch the tune.
Is the turbo okay? How much did they increase the boost with the tune?


It says 500cL in the Notes and 5L in the description. Since they are the same volume I'm guessing 5L.


I don't see 5L in the description only 500cl in the report, maybe I just don't see it on this small screen, but no matter.
I know 500cl is 5L but 5L would be the more common way of writing it that's why I was wondering if cl was a error for ml.


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Re: Used oil analisys on Volkswagen Sharan 2.0 170 HP [Re: Trav] #4671723
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Originally Posted By: Trav
Originally Posted By: CleverUserName
Originally Posted By: Trav
Do or have a leak down test done on this engine, I suspect the rings have had it given the high iron and oil consumption. 500cl or 500ml?
Don't be surprised if the engine needs a rebuild, in which case go with a good low km used one and ditch the tune.
Is the turbo okay? How much did they increase the boost with the tune?


It says 500cL in the Notes and 5L in the description. Since they are the same volume I'm guessing 5L.


I don't see 5L in the description only 500cl in the report, maybe I just don't see it on this small screen, but no matter.
I know 500cl is 5L but 5L would be the more common way of writing it that's why I was wondering if cl was a error for ml.


There a a box titled ďmake up oil addedĒ below the comments section. Itís says 5Ltr was added.

I didnít realize at first this was a 2.0 PD engine? These are kind of rare in USA, 2.0 PD only used in the Passat for 1 or 2 years. I suppose the iron could be from the camshaft as the PDs cam was known to fail with 5w30. However given the ridiculous oil consumption itís not likely IMO.

Last edited by CleverUserName; 02/20/18 10:51 AM.
Re: Used oil analisys on Volkswagen Sharan 2.0 170 HP [Re: JorgeMartins] #4671746
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Whoops...see below. blush

Last edited by dustyroads; 02/20/18 11:11 AM.

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Re: Used oil analisys on Volkswagen Sharan 2.0 170 HP [Re: JorgeMartins] #4671748
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Regarding the make-up oil, some people have posted Blackstone reports here and listed the sump capacity in the top off section of their slip. It's possible that the OP did that here...don't know. Then again, maybe it really needed 5 liters of make-up oil.

Edit- if it did require 5 liters of make-up oil, that makes the report even uglier. The wear metals would be more diluted with all of the oil added.


2013 F150 XLT 5.0 4X4 101k miles
Edge 5W-30 / Fram 10575
Re: Used oil analisys on Volkswagen Sharan 2.0 170 HP [Re: JorgeMartins] #4671763
02/20/18 11:23 AM
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That is the worst Iron reading I have ever seen in a UOA.

But at least Blackstone didn't tell him to try 12,000 next.


Last edited by JohnnyJohnson; 02/20/18 11:25 AM.

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In: EDGE EP 5W-30 Bosch 3311 122537 7-18-18
2006 Duramax 74277
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In: T6 5W-40 XG9100 74705 4-22-18
Re: Used oil analisys on Volkswagen Sharan 2.0 170 HP [Re: JorgeMartins] #4671782
02/20/18 12:00 PM
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I would aim towards failed injector...wich has transformed itself into blow torch and is now melting your piston and cyl. wall (aluminium&iron)

Put out all glow plugs and have a look inside with a borescope...


2011 Hyundai i30 1.4 CVVT Shell Helix Ultra 5w40
1997 Toyota Landcruiser KZJ95 3.0 TD Shell Rimula R6M 10w40
Re: Used oil analisys on Volkswagen Sharan 2.0 170 HP [Re: Kamele0N] #4671811
02/20/18 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted By: Kamele0N
I would aim towards failed injector...wich has transformed itself into blow torch and is now melting your piston and cyl. wall (aluminium&iron)

Put out all glow plugs and have a look inside with a borescope...



Sorry thats for commonrail diesels...


Have a look under valvecover how is your injector/valve (its one camshaft for both) camshaft doing smile


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1997 Toyota Landcruiser KZJ95 3.0 TD Shell Rimula R6M 10w40
Re: Used oil analisys on Volkswagen Sharan 2.0 170 HP [Re: CleverUserName] #4671830
02/20/18 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted By: CleverUserName
Yikes that is worse than the 10k UOA on my '09 TDI. I now only do 7-7.5K OCI now due to TBN depletion and high wear metals.

Did you really need to add 5L of make-up oil? That is bad. My '09 has 120K miles and still uses zero oil between changes.

Maybe that engine has been abused or it has more miles than you think. I'd do a compression check first.


Sorry, my mistake, added 50cl, half liter

Last edited by JorgeMartins; 02/20/18 12:56 PM.
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