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#4671462 - 02/19/18 11:28 PM Countries with weapons from U.S. and Russia
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Some current events had me thinking which countries have weapons from United States and from Russia? Did a quick Google search and briefly scanned Janes.com but didn't really find anything. I always thought this was a big no-no but now I see Turkey has the F-35 and has recently received some Russian missiles. Are there other countries that have both? Just curious and it would be nice if the thread stayed open long enough so I could get some info. Not political, just curious.
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#4671463 - 02/19/18 11:31 PM Re: Countries with weapons from U.S. and Russia [Re: 555]
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#4671465 - 02/19/18 11:37 PM Re: Countries with weapons from U.S. and Russia [Re: 555]
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#4671480 - 02/19/18 11:58 PM Re: Countries with weapons from U.S. and Russia [Re: 555]
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I pressume we just buy on price - do you have price comparisons on these things ?
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#4671489 - 02/20/18 12:08 AM Re: Countries with weapons from U.S. and Russia [Re: Silk]
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Originally Posted By: Silk
I pressume we just buy on price - do you have price comparisons on these things ?


Most other countries do the same. The US and Russia are just arms merchants, countries will just buy whoever has the best deal. The two that come to mind are Pakistan and Egypt.

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#4671505 - 02/20/18 01:28 AM Re: Countries with weapons from U.S. and Russia [Re: Wolf359]
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Israel, though the Soviet stuff was probably all captured. They make some of their own copies, eg Kalashknockoff fitted with a bottle opener. Iraq rather obviously, and probably a lot of other regimes co-opted into the WAT.

Er..does the Iran-Contras thing count?

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#4671540 - 02/20/18 04:23 AM Re: Countries with weapons from U.S. and Russia [Re: 555]
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesian_Air_Force

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The Indonesian Air Force has 37,850 personnel and equipped with 110 combat aircraft. The inventory includes SU-27 and SU-30 as the main fighters (from Russia) supplemented by F-16 Fighting Falcons (from the USA).[2] The Indonesian Air Force will purchase 11 Sukhoi SU-35[3] and around 50 KF-X [4] as a replacement for the already-aging US Northrop F-5 Tiger light fighters in its inventory.

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#4671574 - 02/20/18 06:08 AM Re: Countries with weapons from U.S. and Russia [Re: Shannow]
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Originally Posted By: Shannow
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesian_Air_Force

Quote:
The Indonesian Air Force has 37,850 personnel and equipped with 110 combat aircraft. The inventory includes SU-27 and SU-30 as the main fighters (from Russia) supplemented by F-16 Fighting Falcons (from the USA).[2] The Indonesian Air Force will purchase 11 Sukhoi SU-35[3] and around 50 KF-X [4] as a replacement for the already-aging US Northrop F-5 Tiger light fighters in its inventory.




Looks like Russia enjoying another embargo Ö

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#4671580 - 02/20/18 06:35 AM Re: Countries with weapons from U.S. and Russia [Re: 555]
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East Germany bought some MiG-29s just before the Berlin Wall fell, so there is now a German MiG-29 squadron. They make it available for other NATO pilots to train against.
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#4671586 - 02/20/18 06:50 AM Re: Countries with weapons from U.S. and Russia [Re: 555]
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Off the top of my head:
Germany
Turkey
India
Pakistan
Egypt
Jordan
Iraq
Iran
Indonesia
Singapore

Don't forget the English, French, Germans, or Swedish. English, French and German weapons are sold world-wide, Swedish as well, though to a smaller extent. Many excellent ships, airplanes, small arms, missile systems and communications systems come from manufacturers besides the US and Russia.


Edited by Astro14 (02/20/18 06:53 AM)
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#4671587 - 02/20/18 06:52 AM Re: Countries with weapons from U.S. and Russia [Re: Silk]
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Originally Posted By: Silk
I pressume we just buy on price - do you have price comparisons on these things ?


It's never that simple. Price is one component of purchase decisions for weapons. Performance specifications, life-cycle cost, political incentives, economic incentives, and perhaps a few things that I've not considered, all factor into the purchase decision...not just cost...


Edited by Astro14 (02/20/18 06:52 AM)
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#4671642 - 02/20/18 08:16 AM Re: Countries with weapons from U.S. and Russia [Re: 555]
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Our stuff is the best (generally) Those chat can afford our stuff buy ours. If allowed
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#4671644 - 02/20/18 08:21 AM Re: Countries with weapons from U.S. and Russia [Re: Al]
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Originally Posted By: Al
Our stuff is the best (generally) Those chat can afford our stuff buy ours. If allowed


Then the bad guys overrun those that we sold weapons to and now use our own weapons to shoot as us overseas.

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#4671645 - 02/20/18 08:23 AM Re: Countries with weapons from U.S. and Russia [Re: Astro14]
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Registered: 09/21/10
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Loc: Texas
Originally Posted By: Astro14
Off the top of my head:
Germany
Turkey
India
Pakistan
Egypt
Jordan
Iraq
Iran
Indonesia
Singapore

Don't forget the English, French, Germans, or Swedish. English, French and German weapons are sold world-wide, Swedish as well, though to a smaller extent. Many excellent ships, airplanes, small arms, missile systems and communications systems come from manufacturers besides the US and Russia.


While in a S Korea shipyard Ö they had subs under construction for Indonesia Ö

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#4671688 - 02/20/18 09:08 AM Re: Countries with weapons from U.S. and Russia [Re: d00df00d]
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Originally Posted By: d00df00d
East Germany bought some MiG-29s just before the Berlin Wall fell, so there is now a German MiG-29 squadron. They make it available for other NATO pilots to train against.





Iím pretty sure they got rid of those quite a while ago. Now itís all aging Tornados and mostly Typhoons as far as I know. They had an article last summer stating that their tornados didnít even have full night attack capability due to cockpit lighting issues . Further they didnít even have enough ammunition on hand to allow ground troops full machine gun training.
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I am over there a lot near Munich and used to see military jets in the air training a lot. In the last 10 years I might have seen no more than a couple in all those years. Of course we have all but gone away from there as well.

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