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No free speech Britain #4671100
02/19/18 05:21 PM
02/19/18 05:21 PM
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Rio Rancho, NM
Pajero Offline OP
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Ouch! Woman leaves note on ambulance and gets arrested!

Now, I don't agree with what the woman did. But, being arrested? Looks like Britain is becoming like their Nazi masters. Oh wait, I forgot the Royal Family was saluting Hitler before the war. Unless, there is more to the story than what is being told.mm

Article

We sometimes forget, the Rights that are protected/violated in our Country. Just thinking!


Respectfully,

Pajero!




Re: No free speech Britain [Re: Pajero] #4671106
02/19/18 05:26 PM
02/19/18 05:26 PM
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central ga
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It was an asinine thing to do but nothing worth an arrest for offending the sensibilities of a public servant(errr,i mean a govt master)

Re: No free speech Britain [Re: Pajero] #4671109
02/19/18 05:27 PM
02/19/18 05:27 PM
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Indiana
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Free speech has been gone here for some time.

Granted, it typically won't get one arrested, but it'll certainly get one negatively scrutinized.

It doesn't take much to see many double standards in today's pop culture.


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Re: No free speech Britain [Re: Pajero] #4671115
02/19/18 05:34 PM
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USA
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That's a good way to ensure that the ambulance will never come for you when you need one.

There is no such thing as an illegally parked emergency vehicle. Also any contact between your car and a police car, fire truck, or ambulance is automatically your fault. That is just how the world works.

Last edited by mk378; 02/19/18 05:36 PM.
Re: No free speech Britain [Re: Pajero] #4671121
02/19/18 05:38 PM
02/19/18 05:38 PM
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As far as I know, there never was any free speech law enacted in Britain ... It's why we wrote one into our founding documents smile

Free speech is one thing - most often allowed in a political context of some sort. Offending folks in some ways (threatening assault comes to mind), slander, etc - has never been OK ...

There is no such thing as universal free speech. It is conditional and always has been.

Last edited by BrocLuno; 02/19/18 05:40 PM.

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Re: No free speech Britain [Re: Pajero] #4671123
02/19/18 05:39 PM
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I think the verbal abuse part got her in trouble. It is called disorderly conduct here.


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Re: No free speech Britain [Re: dlundblad] #4671136
02/19/18 05:49 PM
02/19/18 05:49 PM
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Toronna
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Originally Posted By: dlundblad
Free speech has been gone here for some time.

Granted, it typically won't get one arrested, but it'll certainly get one negatively scrutinized.

It doesn't take much to see many double standards in today's pop culture.


Taking it for granted.


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Re: No free speech Britain [Re: Pajero] #4671139
02/19/18 05:51 PM
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WI
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That's just the tip of the ice berg regarding things that have gone wrong in Britain lately.


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Re: No free speech Britain [Re: Pajero] #4671142
02/19/18 05:52 PM
02/19/18 05:52 PM
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California
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Britain has public order offense laws against intimidation or threats against individuals carrying out public service duties. Personally, I wouldn't view this as free speech whether they have laws on the books against this type of action or not.

It reminds me of a gentleman from the UK who I interact with on another board that thinks the Fourth Amendment is "bollocks". I'm sure the same people who say that this is free speech will be the same ones who criticize differing surveillance and search and seizure laws in the UK.

Re: No free speech Britain [Re: Pajero] #4671148
02/19/18 05:56 PM
02/19/18 05:56 PM
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Romania
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Bla-bla-bla...even in the US you have the freedom of speech until you say the wrong thing or you step on the wrong person's toes.

I dare you to go into a library or airport and say the word BOMB at more than 70 decibels and we'll see how much freedom of speech you have. smile

Re: No free speech Britain [Re: Andy636] #4671153
02/19/18 06:04 PM
02/19/18 06:04 PM
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North Carolina
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Originally Posted By: Andy636
I dare you to go into a library or airport and say the word BOMB at more than 70 decibels and we'll see how much freedom of speech you have. smile

That sort of complete idiocy is NOT covered by the first amendment and never was, either in writing or intent.

Educate yourself.


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Re: No free speech Britain [Re: Pajero] #4671165
02/19/18 06:13 PM
02/19/18 06:13 PM
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Anaheim, CA
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I've had notes on my car from the same kind of unstable people. Just because they blow the leaves from their yard on to the street, somehow makes them think that portion of the street is theirs.


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Re: No free speech Britain [Re: Pajero] #4671185
02/19/18 06:34 PM
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california
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It says she was arrested for public order offenses. Nothing about free speech. No, free speech in all of Britain isn't under attack. laugh

Re: No free speech Britain [Re: Pajero] #4671188
02/19/18 06:36 PM
02/19/18 06:36 PM
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Katy, Republic of Texas
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Why was the paramedic "very offended"?
While I never got a note like that while I worked on the ambulance, I would have laughed it off and not thought twice about it.
It then sounds like it may have escalated with verbal once the crew came outside.


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Re: No free speech Britain [Re: Pajero] #4671198
02/19/18 06:52 PM
02/19/18 06:52 PM
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Rio Rancho, NM
Pajero Offline OP
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I drove an ambulance a lifetime ago. There is common sense where you should or shouldn't park. But i'm not familiar with area in question. I never blocked a driveway if I didn't have too or blocked anyone else in. There were no problem areas for parking where I worked. Like I said, there must be more to the backstory. But, nothing was done until it went viral? Maybe idk




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