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Boutique oil vs. Major oil company's #4670475
02/19/18 07:01 AM
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Does RP really have better motor oils when a small company could never have the money for RD like Exxon,BP,Shell.....etc?
My guess that M1 would be superior oil to RP or lucas or any smaller oil company products.....

Re: Boutique oil vs. Major oil company's [Re: gmh101357] #4670477
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Well, they most likely buy their base stocks from the big companies, but who knows, when it comes to additives.

I'm sure they are great, but I'll stick with Mobil 1.


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Re: Boutique oil vs. Major oil company's [Re: IndyFan] #4670480
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yeah plus it 20-30 percent less money

Re: Boutique oil vs. Major oil company's [Re: gmh101357] #4670498
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Most things in life you get what you pay for. Amsoil, if you run it for 12,000 miles plus may be a bargain oil or change once a year etc but since most of the motoring world in the US goes for much shorter OCIs the boutique oils simply do not make sense from a $$ perspective. Almost any new engine out there today will go 200,000 miles with just changing the oil at reasonable intervals with whatever meets spec. When I had kids in college and saw their car once or twice a year or so Amsoil was great for me, not so anymore.

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Re: Boutique oil vs. Major oil company's [Re: IndyFan] #4670501
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Originally Posted By: IndyFan
Well, they most likely buy their base stocks from the big companies, but who knows, when it comes to additives.

I'm sure they are great, but I'll stick with Mobil 1.


They do Ö but then Amsoil might turn around and use more SpectraSyn than even the producer (XOM) does at least in the Signature Series product line ~ IMO if you are not getting SS than itís just more like the rest
I like a couple niche products from Amsoil/Redline but donít need the motor oil Ö

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Re: Boutique oil vs. Major oil company's [Re: gmh101357] #4670503
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I buy quality synthetic motor oil from Walmart, but the ATF and gear oil comes from Amsoil.

However if I won the lottery, I would buy all Amsoil.


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Re: Boutique oil vs. Major oil company's [Re: Spector] #4670508
02/19/18 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted By: Spector
Most things in life you get what you pay for. Amsoil, if you run it for 12,000 miles plus may be a bargain oil or change once a year etc but since most of the motoring world in the US goes for much shorter OCIs the boutique oils simply do not make sense from a $$ perspective. Almost any new engine out there today will go 200,000 miles with just changing the oil at reasonable intervals with whatever meets spec. When I had kids in college and saw their car once or twice a year or so Amsoil was great for me, not so anymore.

NOPE.

Plenty of long life oils on the shelf at Walmart without paying Amsoil's prices; ordering online or through their pyramid scheme rep system.

Mobil 1 EP, AP, Castrol EP, or any A3/B4 or A5/B5.


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Re: Boutique oil vs. Major oil company's [Re: gmh101357] #4670513
02/19/18 08:21 AM
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With Red Line and Amsoil SSO, you probably are getting what you pay for in terms of the basestock blends used and the add packs.
Red Line in particular is heavy on moly, the costliest of adds.
OTOH if you don't really need the performance advantages that these oils may offer, then you're really not gaining anything in exchange for the marginal cost.
Still, the cost of oil represents such a small part of the overall cost of running any IC vehicle that anyone wanting to scratch a boutique oil itch may as well do it.


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Re: Boutique oil vs. Major oil company's [Re: fdcg27] #4670516
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Wish I could get SS for the special Stevie rate Ö but will have to stick with oils from Walmart/eBay

Re: Boutique oil vs. Major oil company's [Re: gmh101357] #4670517
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No need to buy a boutique oil for me. I can do better at WMT and save money in the process, and if I spend more than $25 online they'll ship it free.


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Re: Boutique oil vs. Major oil company's [Re: 4WD] #4670522
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Originally Posted By: 4WD
Wish I could get SS for the special Stevie rate … but will have to stick with oils from Walmart/eBay


I beat the special Stevie rate by a good margin with a CL find.
How about 17.5 quarts of SS 0W-20 for $45.00?
A family moving to the northwest from Columbus was selling off all kinds of things and I was getting to Columbus pretty regularly at the time.
I used to find great deals on oil on CL, but not so much these days.


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Re: Boutique oil vs. Major oil company's [Re: gmh101357] #4670550
02/19/18 08:59 AM
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Noticed last night that my local WM is definitely not carrying RP in jugs anymore, didn't even look at the quarts so they might still have those.

I am fascinated by the latest Amsoil SS XW30 offerings, not sure if I will ever actually try one. Not so worried about cost for something I only do 4 times a year for my own car, but I'm not sure if I like the high SA numbers.


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Re: Boutique oil vs. Major oil company's [Re: Virtus_Probi] #4670572
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I bought 3 jugs of RP they had marked down to 25.00 and a few quarts for 6.00 ? I think. It was the same price as M1 so I figured i would run it in my 06 4.6 Mustang this summer and see if I can hear any diff in RP vs M!. RP use to be 37.00 at WM so getting pulled off the self will hurt them im sure. WM was clearing out some Penn and castor also....in fact it looked like panic buy on the shelves......wonder whats going on. Im Sure M1 sells the best and then Penn and vavoline and castor....plus their brand, I guess they are making room for what sells.

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Re: Boutique oil vs. Major oil company's [Re: gmh101357] #4670578
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Some effective marketing and some preceived needs and the boutique oil market blooms. The best thing the Botique oil insdustry offers is the specialty products. At best they mostly offer a 20 foot ladder to climb out of a 6 foot hole. The question that needs to asked is will we actually benefit from the Botique oil use? Most are really high quality products. We will use Amsoil for example [the oil we love to bash] Can any one prove their products aren't of the highest quality? I do not use Amsoil.


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Re: Boutique oil vs. Major oil company's [Re: gmh101357] #4670596
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