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Why Is Pennzoil Selling Oil For Low Prices? #4669469
02/18/18 10:20 AM
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I posted on BITOG site about how I got an UNHEARD of deal on PP Euro 0W40 oil ($14-5 qt. container/$2.50-1 qt. bottle)
Why is Pennzoil being sold at such low prices? Is Pennzoil in the process of coming out with new products? It's such places as Wal-Mart, AutoZone, etc.
shrug

Re: Why Is Pennzoil Selling Oil For Low Prices? [Re: BlueOvalFitter] #4669481
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It's probably the retailer thats selling it so cheap.

Re: Why Is Pennzoil Selling Oil For Low Prices? [Re: BlueOvalFitter] #4669482
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Add the rebate with it & its a sweeeeet deal. I noticed at my Wal Mart the conventional PYB in all weights went up in price here the last two weeks.


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M1 Euro 0W40 & FU (19K)
2008 Acura TL 3.2L PPPP 0W20 & FU (108K)
2005 Subaru Baja AWD 2.5L N/A 5spd.
Rotella T6 5W30 & Wix (91K)
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Re: Why Is Pennzoil Selling Oil For Low Prices? [Re: BAJA_05] #4669533
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[quote=BAJA_05]Add the rebate with it & its a sweeeeet deal. I noticed at my Wal Mart the conventional PYB in all weights went up in price here the last two weeks.

Yeah, most PYB except 10w40 and 20w50 is like $17.98 at my Wal Mart


09' Camry LE, 141,020 miles

PP 5w30 and TG 4967
Re: Why Is Pennzoil Selling Oil For Low Prices? [Re: BlueOvalFitter] #4669666
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I have been buying up PP and PUP for really decent prices up here lately, but I think that is mainly to do with them being the older Dexos-1 formulas instead of the newer D1G2 formulas?
Only a guess, of course, but my gut tells me when these D1 oils dry up, sales like I have been seeing will also dry up?


2017 Chevy Impala 3.6 L.
2013 Ram 5.7 L Hemi Bighorn QC 4x4
2008 Chevy Malibu 2.4 L Ecotec
Pennzoil Platinum and/or Pennzoil Ultra Platinum for all 3.
Re: Why Is Pennzoil Selling Oil For Low Prices? [Re: BlueOvalFitter] #4669680
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Re: Why Is Pennzoil Selling Oil For Low Prices? [Re: BlueOvalFitter] #4669689
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So, in a nutshell, the new D1G2 oils were developed for use in Turbocharged vehicles and not necessarily for non turbocharged vehicles?

"The API SN PLUS motor oil specification is intended to complement API SN and ILSAC GF-5 and aimed at addressing the increasing impact of Low-Speed Pre-Ignition in Turbocharged Gasoline Direct Injection (TGDI) engines.

In 2 of that links bullets, it mentions Turbocharged engines; nothing about non TB'd engines.


2017 Chevy Impala 3.6 L.
2013 Ram 5.7 L Hemi Bighorn QC 4x4
2008 Chevy Malibu 2.4 L Ecotec
Pennzoil Platinum and/or Pennzoil Ultra Platinum for all 3.
Re: Why Is Pennzoil Selling Oil For Low Prices? [Re: irv] #4669902
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Originally Posted By: irv
So, in a nutshell, the new D1G2 oils were developed for use in Turbocharged vehicles and not necessarily for non turbocharged vehicles?

"The API SN PLUS motor oil specification is intended to complement API SN and ILSAC GF-5 and aimed at addressing the increasing impact of Low-Speed Pre-Ignition in Turbocharged Gasoline Direct Injection (TGDI) engines.

In 2 of that links bullets, it mentions Turbocharged engines; nothing about non TB'd engines.
The Dexos 1 Gen 2 oils were MODIFIED to prevent LSPI, but they would still be good in non turbo, non direct injected, gasoline engines. Usually means less calcium and more magnesium in the additive package to cut down on pre-ignition at low engine speeds.


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Re: Why Is Pennzoil Selling Oil For Low Prices? [Re: BlueOvalFitter] #4669903
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Stopped at AZ, they were selling PP jugs for $10. Only had 10W-30 but I bought a couple anyway. Can use in my GM V8s. Manager said they had a package change and was told to blow ‘em out.


2014 Camaro 2SS/RS LS3 Vert 14,000 M1
2012 Sienna 79,000 M1
2007 Tahoe 140,000 PP

Re: Why Is Pennzoil Selling Oil For Low Prices? [Re: wemay] #4670033
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Originally Posted By: wemay

The BIG Q? now is, how much more will this oil be then what the present oil price is? I mean, as the price of a barrel of oil increases, so do store oil prices. Being that synthetic Pennzoil is made from natural gas, the price shouldn't be affected that much more, correct?
shrug

Re: Why Is Pennzoil Selling Oil For Low Prices? [Re: bullwinkle] #4670212
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Originally Posted By: bullwinkle
Originally Posted By: irv
So, in a nutshell, the new D1G2 oils were developed for use in Turbocharged vehicles and not necessarily for non turbocharged vehicles?

"The API SN PLUS motor oil specification is intended to complement API SN and ILSAC GF-5 and aimed at addressing the increasing impact of Low-Speed Pre-Ignition in Turbocharged Gasoline Direct Injection (TGDI) engines.

In 2 of that links bullets, it mentions Turbocharged engines; nothing about non TB'd engines.


The Dexos 1 Gen 2 oils were MODIFIED to prevent LSPI, but they would still be good in non turbo, non direct injected, gasoline engines. Usually means less calcium and more magnesium in the additive package to cut down on pre-ignition at low engine speeds.


The Dexos 1 Gen 2 oils were MODIFIED to prevent LSPI,..............for turbocharged engines, according to the info in the link above, but would benefit, to a much smaller level, non turbocharged engines as well.

Personally, my take is, even if these new D1G2 oils are slightly/somewhat better, the end result will be negligible in non turbocharged engines.
Nothing in the link above even mentions non turbocharged engines and what benefit they will see from this new D1G2 formula.


2017 Chevy Impala 3.6 L.
2013 Ram 5.7 L Hemi Bighorn QC 4x4
2008 Chevy Malibu 2.4 L Ecotec
Pennzoil Platinum and/or Pennzoil Ultra Platinum for all 3.
Re: Why Is Pennzoil Selling Oil For Low Prices? [Re: BlueOvalFitter] #4670464
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Originally Posted By: BlueOvalFitter
Originally Posted By: wemay

The BIG Q? now is, how much more will this oil be then what the present oil price is? I mean, as the price of a barrel of oil increases, so do store oil prices. Being that synthetic Pennzoil is made from natural gas, the price shouldn't be affected that much more, correct?
shrug
Fact is, the timing of the Pennzoil Platinum price increase was pretty suspect in my book-it jumped up on the EXACT DAY the new rebate started?? WM is starting to play games, and now other retailers (like Meijer if you have them) are routinely beating their prices, not just on motor oil.


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Re: Why Is Pennzoil Selling Oil For Low Prices? [Re: BlueOvalFitter] #4670466
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D1G2 also offers:

•New timing chain wear improved protection testing.

•New Oxidation & Deposit Test (GMOD) verifies the improved oxidation and deposit control characteristics.

•New Aeration Test (bubble control) ensures the air bubbles in the oil dissipate quickly to improve oil performance.


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'13 Hyundai Santa Fe Sport 2.0T: EDGE 5w30
Re: Why Is Pennzoil Selling Oil For Low Prices? [Re: BlueOvalFitter] #4670472
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Originally Posted By: BlueOvalFitter

The BIG Q? now is, how much more will this oil be then what the present oil price is? I mean, as the price of a barrel of oil increases, so do store oil prices. Being that synthetic Pennzoil is made from natural gas, the price shouldn't be affected that much more, correct?
shrug


That's not how it works, pennzoil doesn't owe the customer a lower price because they invented a sweet way of turning gas into liquid. They get to profit off the spread and pass it on to the shareholders.

It's like when Southwest locked in low oil price contracts a decade ago-- they were able to raise ticket prices in tandem with the rest of the carriers and laugh all the way to the bank.

Re: Why Is Pennzoil Selling Oil For Low Prices? [Re: eljefino] #4670507
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Originally Posted By: eljefino
Originally Posted By: BlueOvalFitter

The BIG Q? now is, how much more will this oil be then what the present oil price is? I mean, as the price of a barrel of oil increases, so do store oil prices. Being that synthetic Pennzoil is made from natural gas, the price shouldn't be affected that much more, correct?
shrug


That's not how it works, pennzoil doesn't owe the customer a lower price because they invented a sweet way of turning gas into liquid. They get to profit off the spread and pass it on to the shareholders.

It's like when Southwest locked in low oil price contracts a decade ago-- they were able to raise ticket prices in tandem with the rest of the carriers and laugh all the way to the bank.


Shell had a choice of GTL or LNG with each M3 of gas. Even if the choice is LNG (what XOM stayed with) they are not bound by pipeline and can transport to higher paying markets. The natural gas was not going on the cheap either way.

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