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What would you do? #4668016
02/16/18 05:22 PM
02/16/18 05:22 PM
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SD - South Dakota
meborder Offline OP
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I found myself in an interesting place a couple of weeks ago, and thought it might make for an interesting discussion.

Background info: I had to put a new engine in my plow truck (1983 K20) so I upgraded the new(used) engine with a new camshaft. nothing wild, but brand new cam none-the-less. So to break in the new cam I filled the sump with Amsoil SAE 30 break-in oil. Ran it for 20 minutes at high idle and took it for a test drive. it had about another hour or so of high idle time, and about an hour's-worth of use plowing snow up to this point. I really wanted to get as much time on the engine with the break-in oil to give the new cam as much time as possible to break in with the high ZDDP oil.

here was the situation:
It had snowed and we had between 4-5 inches of snow on the ground. the temp had fallen into the low single digits. I had to move snow either that night or early the next morning. Sump is full of SAE 30 break in oil still. Ready to go in is 6 quarts of Amsoil 3000 5w30 diesel rated oil.

So my choices, as i could see them, were:

1 - start it up, warm it up good and use it, then change oil warm
2 - Drain oil cold, refill, then put it to work.
3 - put on a pan heater for the night, drain oil in the morning before use
4 - put on pan heater, warm it up good and use it, then change oil warm
5 - stop worrying about it and just use the truck ...

the problem with 3, 4, and 5 is that the temps are still falling and by the next morning they will be pushing double digits below zero.

anyone that has ever handled SAE 30 in the cold knows the problem with 1 & 2 already, but for those of you who haven't -- SAE 30 in single digit temps is just about like honey at room temp.

so ... what would you do.

if there is any interest, i'll tell you what i did and why later.
i just thought it would make for an interesting topic to discuss.


Too many cars using too many different oils to list in 150 characters.
Re: What would you do? [Re: meborder] #4668020
02/16/18 05:26 PM
02/16/18 05:26 PM
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San Antonio, TX
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I would choose 4, but I am from Texas so my opinion doesnt count.


1984 Mercedes-Benz 300SD - 100k
1995 F150 XL 4.9 reg cab 5MT - 251k 5w30
2016 Mazda6 Touring 6MT - 57k 10w30
2006 Buick Lucerne CXL 3.8 31k 5w30
Re: What would you do? [Re: meborder] #4668025
02/16/18 05:30 PM
02/16/18 05:30 PM
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Lakeside, CA
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I'd go with option 1 or 4

Last edited by Blkstanger; 02/16/18 05:31 PM.

99 Jeep WJ 4.7 190,000 Maxlife 10w30, Fram Ultra.
Re: What would you do? [Re: meborder] #4668038
02/16/18 05:48 PM
02/16/18 05:48 PM
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Cincinnati, OH, USA
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I'd go with option 4 and run it at least 500 miles, no sense in wasting good oil!


06 Ram 3500 CTD 4X4(FG Venturi), 93 GMC C3500 6.2, 89 F-450 7.3, 98 XJ 4.0(XG8A), 05 xB(XG3600), 18 Transit 3.7, 03 Merc Grand Marquis 4.6 2V(XG2)
Re: What would you do? [Re: E150GT] #4668039
02/16/18 05:49 PM
02/16/18 05:49 PM
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Texas
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I would choose all of the above, but I am from Texas too.

laugh

Re: What would you do? [Re: BalticBob] #4668049
02/16/18 05:57 PM
02/16/18 05:57 PM
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wv
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wv
Option 6-

Keep the Amsoil until after the engine is broken in fully.

Pay to have the oil changed with conventional oil.

Keep on Truckin'

Re: What would you do? [Re: Blkstanger] #4668053
02/16/18 06:02 PM
02/16/18 06:02 PM
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SD
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Originally Posted By: Blkstanger
I'd go with option 1 or 4


I agree.


"Think of all the Ford owners who will someday want an automobile." John Dodge

Re: What would you do? [Re: meborder] #4668064
02/16/18 06:12 PM
02/16/18 06:12 PM
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West Ma.
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1 then 5


Pete.
97 Ford Expl.Sport 4.0 ohv 4wd 5spddrive184k miles
Last Change;
Penn. Plat. HM. 5w30
Fram xg8a, Fram CA8141

I like my oil (slippery).

Re: What would you do? [Re: meborder] #4668069
02/16/18 06:20 PM
02/16/18 06:20 PM
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PA
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4


'95 Chevy 1/2t 305 205k -NexGen Maxlife 5w-30, Wix filter
'89 Jeep Comanche 4.0 278k - GC 0w-30, Bosch LongLife filter
Re: What would you do? [Re: meborder] #4668078
02/16/18 06:33 PM
02/16/18 06:33 PM
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OH
fdcg27 Offline
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OH
4 seems like the best option to me.


17 Forester 12K MSS 0W-20
12 Accord LX 92K PP 5W-20
09 Forester 95K M1HM 10W-30
01 Focus ZX3 118K PP 5W-20
96 Accord LX 104K T5 10W-30
95 318i
Re: What would you do? [Re: rollinpete] #4668089
02/16/18 06:49 PM
02/16/18 06:49 PM
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West Ma.
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West Ma.
Originally Posted By: rollinpete
1 then 5


I want to change my vote

4 then 5 smile


Pete.
97 Ford Expl.Sport 4.0 ohv 4wd 5spddrive184k miles
Last Change;
Penn. Plat. HM. 5w30
Fram xg8a, Fram CA8141

I like my oil (slippery).

Re: What would you do? [Re: rollinpete] #4668164
02/16/18 08:07 PM
02/16/18 08:07 PM
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Taiwan
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Taiwan
Relocate to somewhere warmer.

Oh wait, I already have.

So my opinion doesn't count

Re: What would you do? [Re: meborder] #4668169
02/16/18 08:10 PM
02/16/18 08:10 PM
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'Stralia
Shannow Offline
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'Stralia
4 I think.

Just don't get stuck somewhere that makes the oil go to ambient.

edit...a 112 VI makes me question just how synthetic this oil is.
https://www.amsoil.com/lit/databulletins/g2881.pdf

Last edited by Shannow; 02/16/18 08:14 PM.
Re: What would you do? [Re: meborder] #4668194
02/16/18 08:24 PM
02/16/18 08:24 PM
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War Eagle
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option 5 that oil is still really good for a long time


1994 Jeep 159k Mobil 5000 5w30
2014 Camry 34k Havoline 5w20
2018 Jeep Cherokee 2k FactFill
2014 HD Ultra 40k Mobil1 15w50
2012 Rav4 37k Pennzoil Platinum 5w20
Re: What would you do? [Re: meborder] #4668272
02/16/18 09:40 PM
02/16/18 09:40 PM
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Florida, Cape Coral
Eddie Offline
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Florida, Cape Coral
+1 I vote for #5. You have an oil filter to protect and are using an exceptionally good break-in oil. Don't waste it and substitute a lesser oil to continue the break-in. Ed

Last edited by Eddie; 02/16/18 09:43 PM.

CX5 Touring 2.5L :-)
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