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#4668016 - 02/16/18 04:22 PM What would you do?
meborder Offline


Registered: 04/27/14
Posts: 837
Loc: SD - South Dakota
I found myself in an interesting place a couple of weeks ago, and thought it might make for an interesting discussion.

Background info: I had to put a new engine in my plow truck (1983 K20) so I upgraded the new(used) engine with a new camshaft. nothing wild, but brand new cam none-the-less. So to break in the new cam I filled the sump with Amsoil SAE 30 break-in oil. Ran it for 20 minutes at high idle and took it for a test drive. it had about another hour or so of high idle time, and about an hour's-worth of use plowing snow up to this point. I really wanted to get as much time on the engine with the break-in oil to give the new cam as much time as possible to break in with the high ZDDP oil.

here was the situation:
It had snowed and we had between 4-5 inches of snow on the ground. the temp had fallen into the low single digits. I had to move snow either that night or early the next morning. Sump is full of SAE 30 break in oil still. Ready to go in is 6 quarts of Amsoil 3000 5w30 diesel rated oil.

So my choices, as i could see them, were:

1 - start it up, warm it up good and use it, then change oil warm
2 - Drain oil cold, refill, then put it to work.
3 - put on a pan heater for the night, drain oil in the morning before use
4 - put on pan heater, warm it up good and use it, then change oil warm
5 - stop worrying about it and just use the truck ...

the problem with 3, 4, and 5 is that the temps are still falling and by the next morning they will be pushing double digits below zero.

anyone that has ever handled SAE 30 in the cold knows the problem with 1 & 2 already, but for those of you who haven't -- SAE 30 in single digit temps is just about like honey at room temp.

so ... what would you do.

if there is any interest, i'll tell you what i did and why later.
i just thought it would make for an interesting topic to discuss.
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#4668020 - 02/16/18 04:26 PM Re: What would you do? [Re: meborder]
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Registered: 03/11/12
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Loc: San Antonio, TX
I would choose 4, but I am from Texas so my opinion doesnt count.
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#4668025 - 02/16/18 04:30 PM Re: What would you do? [Re: meborder]
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Registered: 08/13/11
Posts: 1945
Loc: Lakeside, CA
I'd go with option 1 or 4


Edited by Blkstanger (02/16/18 04:31 PM)
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#4668038 - 02/16/18 04:48 PM Re: What would you do? [Re: meborder]
bullwinkle Offline


Registered: 10/09/04
Posts: 7664
Loc: Cincinnati, OH, USA
I'd go with option 4 and run it at least 500 miles, no sense in wasting good oil!
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#4668039 - 02/16/18 04:49 PM Re: What would you do? [Re: E150GT]
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Registered: 11/27/16
Posts: 395
Loc: Texas
I would choose all of the above, but I am from Texas too.

laugh

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#4668049 - 02/16/18 04:57 PM Re: What would you do? [Re: BalticBob]
krismoriah72 Offline


Registered: 02/16/09
Posts: 1518
Loc: wv
Option 6-

Keep the Amsoil until after the engine is broken in fully.

Pay to have the oil changed with conventional oil.

Keep on Truckin'

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#4668053 - 02/16/18 05:02 PM Re: What would you do? [Re: Blkstanger]
zrxkawboy Offline


Registered: 11/30/04
Posts: 1761
Loc: SD
Originally Posted By: Blkstanger
I'd go with option 1 or 4


I agree.
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#4668064 - 02/16/18 05:12 PM Re: What would you do? [Re: meborder]
rollinpete Offline


Registered: 03/20/17
Posts: 450
Loc: West Ma.
1 then 5
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#4668069 - 02/16/18 05:20 PM Re: What would you do? [Re: meborder]
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Registered: 02/12/08
Posts: 1058
Loc: PA
4
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#4668078 - 02/16/18 05:33 PM Re: What would you do? [Re: meborder]
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Registered: 09/25/09
Posts: 15693
Loc: OH
4 seems like the best option to me.
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#4668089 - 02/16/18 05:49 PM Re: What would you do? [Re: rollinpete]
rollinpete Offline


Registered: 03/20/17
Posts: 450
Loc: West Ma.
Originally Posted By: rollinpete
1 then 5


I want to change my vote

4 then 5 smile
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#4668164 - 02/16/18 07:07 PM Re: What would you do? [Re: rollinpete]
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Registered: 10/25/12
Posts: 4338
Loc: Taiwan
Relocate to somewhere warmer.

Oh wait, I already have.

So my opinion doesn't count

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#4668169 - 02/16/18 07:10 PM Re: What would you do? [Re: meborder]
Shannow Offline


Registered: 12/12/02
Posts: 39858
Loc: 'Stralia
4 I think.

Just don't get stuck somewhere that makes the oil go to ambient.

edit...a 112 VI makes me question just how synthetic this oil is.
https://www.amsoil.com/lit/databulletins/g2881.pdf


Edited by Shannow (02/16/18 07:14 PM)

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#4668194 - 02/16/18 07:24 PM Re: What would you do? [Re: meborder]
toneydoc Offline


Registered: 12/16/11
Posts: 1695
Loc: War Eagle
option 5 that oil is still really good for a long time
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#4668272 - 02/16/18 08:40 PM Re: What would you do? [Re: meborder]
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Registered: 12/07/03
Posts: 9559
Loc: Florida, Cape Coral
+1 I vote for #5. You have an oil filter to protect and are using an exceptionally good break-in oil. Don't waste it and substitute a lesser oil to continue the break-in. Ed


Edited by Eddie (02/16/18 08:43 PM)
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