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Mobil Super Synthetic HTHS better than Mobil 1. #4667082
02/15/18 05:53 PM
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Mobil Super Synthetic 5w30 has an HTHS of 3.3, Mobil emailed me that information. That puts it above the 3.1 of Mobil 1 5w30. This combined with a thicker 100 viscosity has made this my oil of choice. I buy ACDelco Dexos Full Synthetic. The ones in the Mobil style containers are defintely Mobil Super Synthetic. Good oil.


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Re: Mobil Super Synthetic HTHS better than Mobil 1. [Re: CapitalTruck] #4667087
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MSS is a grp 3. Fine product, but a lesser line of lubricant than M1.


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Re: Mobil Super Synthetic HTHS better than Mobil 1. [Re: CapitalTruck] #4667089
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Originally Posted By: CapitalTruck
Mobil Super Synthetic 5w30 has an HTHS of 3.3, Mobil emailed me that information. That puts it above the 3.1 of Mobil 1 5w30. This combined with a thicker 100 viscosity has made this my oil of choice. I buy ACDelco Dexos Full Synthetic. The ones in the Mobil style containers are defintely Mobil Super Synthetic. Good oil.


Have the 5-20 in our Fusion


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Re: Mobil Super Synthetic HTHS better than Mobil 1. [Re: CapitalTruck] #4667090
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If you are just making your decision over one aspect, then yes that's your oil. However, there are so much more to the whole package that should be considered. Mobil Super Syn is a good oil, I agree. However, Mobil 1, Mobil 1 EP, HM etc are noticibly better products "spec wise". I can also usually get Mobil 1 or EP at walmart cheaper than Super Syn which is not available at walmart and parts stores prices on oil is always higher.

Re: Mobil Super Synthetic HTHS better than Mobil 1. [Re: GMBoy] #4667093
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Originally Posted By: GMBoy
If you are just making your decision over one aspect, then yes that's your oil. However, there are so much more to the whole package that should be considered. Mobil Super Syn is a good oil, I agree. However, Mobil 1, Mobil 1 EP, HM etc are noticibly better products "spec wise". I can also usually get Mobil 1 or EP at walmart cheaper than Super Syn which is not available at walmart and parts stores prices on oil is always higher.


Agree got mine at AZ clearance but full price I get M1 EP


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Re: Mobil Super Synthetic HTHS better than Mobil 1. [Re: CapitalTruck] #4667096
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Smokes me it isn't available at Walmart.


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Re: Mobil Super Synthetic HTHS better than Mobil 1. [Re: CapitalTruck] #4667118
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Hey thanks for getting this information CapitalTruck. I do like Mobil Super Synthetic rather well myself. It is good to hear about the higher HTHS.


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Re: Mobil Super Synthetic HTHS better than Mobil 1. [Re: GMBoy] #4667124
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Don't know about that... Mobil Super Synthetic meets Dexos gen 2. Only difference between MSS and Mobil 1 and Mobil EP in terms of specs met.... HTO-06. And that is it.

Nothing wrong with that. HTO-06 is a very good specification due to it testing used oil. Which is a good thing to test for.


But it's not like Mobil 1 or EP meeting a super tough spec like Porsche C30...


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Re: Mobil Super Synthetic HTHS better than Mobil 1. [Re: bbhero] #4667146
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[quote=bbhero]Don't know about that... Mobil Super Synthetic meets Dexos gen 2. Only difference between MSS and Mobil 1 and Mobil EP in terms of specs met.... HTO-06. And that is it.

Nothing wrong with that. HTO-06 is a very good specification due to it testing used oil. Which is a good thing to test for.


But it's not like Mobil 1 or EP meeting a super tough spec like Porsche C30... [/quote.

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Re: Mobil Super Synthetic HTHS better than Mobil 1. [Re: CapitalTruck] #4667205
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I don't understand why a 3.3 HTHS is "better than" a 3.1 HTHS.

Sam


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Re: Mobil Super Synthetic HTHS better than Mobil 1. [Re: Sam_Julier] #4667211
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Originally Posted By: Sam_Julier
I don't understand why a 3.3 HTHS is "better than" a 3.1 HTHS.

^ This.


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Re: Mobil Super Synthetic HTHS better than Mobil 1. [Re: d00df00d] #4667252
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Good call. I just equate it with a stronger fluid film at high temps, but some engines no doubt have such precise tolerances that the higher number isnt necessarily better. My goal has always been to try to find highest number within the tolerable range for my required viscosity. I think that I am able to maintain a more reasonable hot idle oil pressure and quieter valveline in my LS engine. (Helps to keep the tick away, I think. Might be placebo effect.)


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Re: Mobil Super Synthetic HTHS better than Mobil 1. [Re: CapitalTruck] #4667273
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Originally Posted By: CapitalTruck
Good call. I just equate it with a stronger fluid film at high temps, but some engines no doubt have such precise tolerances that the higher number isnt necessarily better. My goal has always been to try to find highest number within the tolerable range for my required viscosity. I think that I am able to maintain a more reasonable hot idle oil pressure and quieter valveline in my LS engine. (Helps to keep the tick away, I think. Might be placebo effect.)


Then just run a Euro 0w-30 shrug HTHS would be >3.5cP.


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Re: Mobil Super Synthetic HTHS better than Mobil 1. [Re: OVERKILL] #4667511
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Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
Originally Posted By: CapitalTruck
Good call. I just equate it with a stronger fluid film at high temps, but some engines no doubt have such precise tolerances that the higher number isnt necessarily better. My goal has always been to try to find highest number within the tolerable range for my required viscosity. I think that I am able to maintain a more reasonable hot idle oil pressure and quieter valveline in my LS engine. (Helps to keep the tick away, I think. Might be placebo effect.)


Then just run a Euro 0w-30 shrug HTHS would be >3.5cP.


Because my truck is still under powertrain warranty and I want to honor the dexos requirement.


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Re: Mobil Super Synthetic HTHS better than Mobil 1. [Re: CapitalTruck] #4667549
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Originally Posted By: CapitalTruck
Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
Originally Posted By: CapitalTruck
Good call. I just equate it with a stronger fluid film at high temps, but some engines no doubt have such precise tolerances that the higher number isnt necessarily better. My goal has always been to try to find highest number within the tolerable range for my required viscosity. I think that I am able to maintain a more reasonable hot idle oil pressure and quieter valveline in my LS engine. (Helps to keep the tick away, I think. Might be placebo effect.)


Then just run a Euro 0w-30 shrug HTHS would be >3.5cP.


Because my truck is still under powertrain warranty and I want to honor the dexos requirement.


Ahhh, OK. The M1 Euro (ESP) 5w-30 is Dexos 2, I assume you need Dexos 1. It has an HTHS of 3.58 wink


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