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Home invasion #4666531
02/15/18 09:19 AM
02/15/18 09:19 AM
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Ozark Mountains
callbay Offline OP
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Ozark Mountains
A few nights ago, about two miles from where I live out in the country, a house was invaded and a man and his dog were killed. They lived alone. 37 year old guy.

A neighbor saw the front door wide open in the daytime and called the police as the man usually works during the day. I don't know any more details other than rumor says a knife was used. Very unusual for my area of low crime.

Makes one think, how could someone get into a house where a man and dog lived and kill them with a knife or even a gun.

Any thoughts?

Re: Home invasion [Re: callbay] #4666535
02/15/18 09:23 AM
02/15/18 09:23 AM
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Storrs, Connecticut
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Storrs, Connecticut
I live in a fairly urban area, and you would be surprised how many people leave their doors unlocked.


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Re: Home invasion [Re: callbay] #4666539
02/15/18 09:30 AM
02/15/18 09:30 AM
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Ohio
Dorian Offline
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Ohio
What a shame. Wonder if it was an inside job?


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Re: Home invasion [Re: jeepman3071] #4666542
02/15/18 09:32 AM
02/15/18 09:32 AM
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Columbus, Ohio
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Columbus, Ohio
Originally Posted By: jeepman3071
I live in a fairly urban area, and you would be surprised how many people leave their doors unlocked.


This. I have neighbors with front door open, garage door open, all day. I don't get it.


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Re: Home invasion [Re: callbay] #4666556
02/15/18 09:49 AM
02/15/18 09:49 AM
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Marshfield , MA
andyd Offline
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Marshfield , MA
Chances are this wasn't random and the killer knew the killee.


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Re: Home invasion [Re: andyd] #4666566
02/15/18 09:57 AM
02/15/18 09:57 AM
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Storrs, Connecticut
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Storrs, Connecticut
Originally Posted By: andyd
Chances are this wasn't random and the killer knew the killee.


+1

Most attacks like this are not random, it is someone who targeted the person for one reason or another and knew information about them.


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Re: Home invasion [Re: callbay] #4666578
02/15/18 10:06 AM
02/15/18 10:06 AM
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Orlando, FL
Mr Nice Offline
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Orlando, FL
Was it a person he may have known ?

Or he let his guard down and answered the front door without expecting violence?

Re: Home invasion [Re: callbay] #4666583
02/15/18 10:09 AM
02/15/18 10:09 AM
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Texas
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Texas
May God rest his soul .


Wyr
God bless
Re: Home invasion [Re: callbay] #4666593
02/15/18 10:17 AM
02/15/18 10:17 AM
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Nashville, TN via Memphis
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Nashville, TN via Memphis
Originally Posted By: callbay
A few nights ago, about two miles from where I live out in the country, a house was invaded and a man and his dog were killed. They lived alone. 37 year old guy.

A neighbor saw the front door wide open in the daytime and called the police as the man usually works during the day. I don't know any more details other than rumor says a knife was used. Very unusual for my area of low crime.

Makes one think, how could someone get into a house where a man and dog lived and kill them with a knife or even a gun.

Any thoughts?


I've done a lot of motorcycle riding in the Ozarks. Where did this happen? Curious if I've been through the area.


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Re: Home invasion [Re: jeepman3071] #4666607
02/15/18 10:29 AM
02/15/18 10:29 AM
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Posts: 12,863
Onondaga County
Miller88 Offline
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Onondaga County
Originally Posted By: jeepman3071
I live in a fairly urban area, and you would be surprised how many people leave their doors unlocked.


Up until my house was sabotaged, I never locked the doors. And the keys to at least 1 vehicle were always in the ignition.

Actually, the keys are still in my Jeep. It's parked in the back yard. The trac bar is broken, so it's not going to turn out of the back yard.


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Re: Home invasion [Re: callbay] #4666616
02/15/18 10:39 AM
02/15/18 10:39 AM
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The Midwest
skyactiv Offline
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The Midwest
A lot of people don't take the "element of surprise" into account. I don't care how armed you are, if your surprised by someone..... .


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Re: Home invasion [Re: skyactiv] #4666622
02/15/18 10:43 AM
02/15/18 10:43 AM
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Texas
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Texas
Originally Posted By: skyactiv
A lot of people don't take the "element of surprise" into account. I don't care how armed you are, if your surprised by someone..... .


No electronics in the world can out perform our canine dust mops ... guess sleeping 23/24 keeps them sleeping really light ...

Re: Home invasion [Re: callbay] #4666677
02/15/18 11:29 AM
02/15/18 11:29 AM
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Ceciltucky Maryland
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Ceciltucky Maryland
We have a huge drug and homeless problem where I live. Most druggies know that a good kick will open a standard door, even with a deadbolt. Most homes have the deadbolt held only by a 3/4 inch piece of wood trim. One kick and the amped up and armed invader is inside your home. You have to wake up and defend.

Deadbolt locks should have an oversize strike plate with long screws into the door rough frame. This will take 4 or 5 kicks to open and give you more time to welcome the home invader.

Last edited by Oldtom; 02/15/18 11:34 AM.
Re: Home invasion [Re: callbay] #4666679
02/15/18 11:34 AM
02/15/18 11:34 AM
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Ontario Canada
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Ontario Canada
He could have opened the door to someone disguised as a door to door sales person.

Re: Home invasion [Re: 4WD] #4666680
02/15/18 11:35 AM
02/15/18 11:35 AM
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Posts: 5,160
MA
Wolf359 Online content
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MA
Originally Posted By: 4WD
Originally Posted By: skyactiv
A lot of people don't take the "element of surprise" into account. I don't care how armed you are, if your surprised by someone..... .


No electronics in the world can out perform our canine dust mops ... guess sleeping 23/24 keeps them sleeping really light ...


Yeah, but if the guy knew his attacker, he would not have been on his guard and the guy could just pull out a knife and stab him. Doesn't matter if you have dogs or not. There's one guy up here that just released himself from a psychiatric hospital and stabbed his 20 year old girlfriend 20 times to death and then stabbed his mother and father.

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