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"Tracking Device " #4666443
02/15/18 07:30 AM
02/15/18 07:30 AM
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SilverGt Offline OP
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My boss suspects that one of my coworkers is using a company van after hours for side work of his own. He wants me to install a gps tracking device that he got in my coworkers van without telling him. I think he should just ask him. Is this legal? Can I get in trouble ? I know companies can have these in their vehicles but don't the employees need to be told?This just don't feel right.

Last edited by SilverGt; 02/15/18 07:31 AM.

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Re: "Tracking Device " [Re: SilverGt] #4666455
02/15/18 07:46 AM
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If the company owns the van they can do whatever they want. If the boss asks about it the other guy can just say no and quit doing it. If the boss catches him he can be held liable for the costs he's incurred for the company. I wouldn't protect someone stealing from my boss.


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Re: "Tracking Device " [Re: SilverGt] #4666457
02/15/18 07:54 AM
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I would send send a registered letter to yourself stating what your boss told you to do. Sign for the letter and never open it. Its dated and can be handed over if you are ever in litigation about it.


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Re: "Tracking Device " [Re: SilverGt] #4666461
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SilverGt Offline OP
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I don't want to protect my coworker I'm just not sure it's legal?


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Re: "Tracking Device " [Re: SilverGt] #4666464
02/15/18 08:02 AM
02/15/18 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted By: SilverGt
I don't want to protect my coworker I'm just not sure it's legal?


Why wouldn't it be legal?

The OWNER of the van wants to monitor its use.

Your coworker consented to monitoring by operating company property. If he doesn't want to be monitored, he can simply leave the van parked, and take his car.


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Re: "Tracking Device " [Re: SilverGt] #4666465
02/15/18 08:05 AM
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https://www.devineoffice.com/blog/general/gps-tracking-devices-on-company-vehicles

If anything, I think the employee might try to sue (probably unsuccessfully anyway) the employer if the employer did not inform the employee that there is a tracking device, but I don't see how YOU could be responsible for any wrongdoing. It is not YOUR duty to inform the other employee about this.



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Re: "Tracking Device " [Re: SilverGt] #4666466
02/15/18 08:06 AM
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Deplorable in apple valley, ca
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They do that with every 18 wheeler you see.


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Re: "Tracking Device " [Re: SilverGt] #4666472
02/15/18 08:20 AM
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Pretty sure it's pretty simple to install a tracking device. When I worked in corporate, there was no expectation of privacy with company equipment. We'd break into users mailboxes if their bossed needed something after they left. Or HR used to ask me what time someone logged in and out of the system, I think they fired a few people for leaving early. I'd have no problems doing it. Perfectly legal for them to track their own equipment.

Re: "Tracking Device " [Re: Chris142] #4666473
02/15/18 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted By: Chris142
They do that with every 18 wheeler you see.


Exactly!

And, I might add, every piece of equipment that's bigger.

Consent to monitoring is part of the conditions of employment.


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Re: "Tracking Device " [Re: SilverGt] #4666479
02/15/18 08:31 AM
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It's 100% LEGAL to install a device. It's YOUR "BOSSES" van, not his. Your buddy is literally stealing it at night to run his own business, using your bosses gas too. What else might he be stealing??? Why don't he tell his boss that he takes it? 'Cause he'll say no.


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Re: "Tracking Device " [Re: SilverGt] #4666490
02/15/18 08:40 AM
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SilverGt Offline OP
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Sounds ok to me then I'll install it Thank You for the replies


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Re: "Tracking Device " [Re: SilverGt] #4666495
02/15/18 08:44 AM
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UPS has them on all their vehicles.

Re: "Tracking Device " [Re: SilverGt] #4666524
02/15/18 09:13 AM
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Completely legal. There's a tracker on every work van in the company I work for. Every time I leave or arrive at my house my boss's phone will ping. Every time we arrive and leave at a building, again boss's phone will ping. Can pull up where the van is at any point in time, also tracks speed and if you're wearing a seat belt.


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Re: "Tracking Device " [Re: SilverGt] #4666544
02/15/18 09:32 AM
02/15/18 09:32 AM
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VA
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Let us know which device you decide to use.


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Re: "Tracking Device " [Re: SilverGt] #4666581
02/15/18 10:08 AM
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I see nothing illegal about installing a tracking device, but I believe the boss needs to tell his employees that the device has been installed, which basically makes the device useless....

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